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Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:05 pm
by Jobbo
Rich B wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:57 pm
The cyclist went round a parked car and stopped in time for a pedestrian to cross.
The car driver stopped on zig zags to drop someone off.
One of those is prohibited and can get 3 points on your licence.
Overtaking within zig zags, yeah?
Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:20 pm
by Rich B
Jobbo wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:05 pm
Rich B wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:57 pm
The cyclist went round a parked car and stopped in time for a pedestrian to cross.
The car driver stopped on zig zags to drop someone off.
One of those is prohibited and can get 3 points on your licence.
Overtaking within zig zags, yeah?
he didn't overtake though!
Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:31 am
by Jobbo
Rich B wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:20 pm
Jobbo wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:05 pm
Rich B wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:57 pm
The cyclist went round a parked car and stopped in time for a pedestrian to cross.
The car driver stopped on zig zags to drop someone off.
One of those is prohibited and can get 3 points on your licence.
Overtaking within zig zags, yeah?
he didn't overtake though!
Driving round a vehicle which is stopped waiting for a pedestrian is overtaking. The car might not have stopped for that purpose originally but he was certainly stopped for that purpose when the cyclist overtook him.
Just because the driver may have committed an offence does not mean the cyclist didn’t also commit an offence. As has been said a number of times, everyone in the video needs to wake up.
Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:39 am
by Rich B
Jobbo wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:31 am
Rich B wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:20 pm
Jobbo wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:05 pm
Overtaking within zig zags, yeah?
he didn't overtake though!
Driving round a vehicle which is stopped waiting for a pedestrian is overtaking. The car might not have stopped for that purpose originally but he was certainly stopped for that purpose when the cyclist overtook him.
Just because the driver may have committed an offence does not mean the cyclist didn’t also commit an offence. As has been said a number of times, everyone in the video needs to wake up.
overtake:
catch up with and pass while travelling in the same direction.
He didn't pass the car, we was next to it at the crossing.
Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 8:58 am
by Beany
Obviously he is morally and ethically in the right, then.
And definitely not a weapons grade walloper looking for his 15 seconds of fame in Jeremy Vines replies.
Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:01 am
by Jobbo
Rich B wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:39 am
overtake:
catch up with and pass while travelling in the same direction.
He didn't pass the car, we was next to it at the crossing.
You'll have to explain how that is distinct from what is visible in the video. The cyclist caught up with the car, which was waiting, and the only reason he didn't completely pass the car (going alongside still being 'passing') was because he had to stop for the person on the crossing which the car was waiting for.
Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:46 am
by jamcg
Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:06 am
by nuttinnew
Clever
Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:44 pm
by MikeHunt
Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:50 pm
by 240PP
Can’t really tell if the van driver was indicating but he was in the left turn only lane anyway so fucking stupid on the cyclist’s part to try and undertake him on the corner.
Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:02 pm
by Mito Man
I don’t indicate on left/right turn only roads as it seems stupid. Where else are you going to turn?
Not sure what the Highway Code says about it?
Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:03 pm
by Beany
Mito Man wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:02 pm
I don’t indicated on left/right turn only roads as it seems stupid. Where else are you going to turn?
Not sure what the Highway Code says about it?
My driving instructor told me not to indicate in 'fixed path' lanes, but must admit, I've never looked further into it as it
does make sense.
Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:10 pm
by John
Indicating or not, I wouldn’t have put myself in that situation.
Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:21 pm
by nuttinnew
It looks and sounds like he was unaware of the road layout. Awkward, glad it was v. minor.
Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:35 pm
by Mito Man
I think one thing which is super dodgy in London now is all the roads which are one way in Covent Garden/Camden allow cyclists to travel both ways. Car drivers just don’t expect that and even as a pedestrian it’s weird. Seen many near misses as a result of it.
Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:14 pm
by Gavster
I don't understand, surely all roads are two-way for cyclists
Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:49 pm
by nuttinnew
Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:54 pm
by Rich B
Rubbish, didn't even get them all.
Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 5:23 pm
by Jobbo
Mito Man wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:02 pm
I don’t indicate on left/right turn only roads as it seems stupid. Where else are you going to turn?
Not sure what the Highway Code says about it?
Highway Code is basically a picture book now:
https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/signals ... users.html
But historically it advised you to indicate to signal your intentions to other road users. That includes pedestrians who may not be aware that you are in a lane marked to turn left so there may well be a reason to signal.
Still the idiot cyclist's fault, riding up the inside of a van in its blind spot. FFS.
Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:16 pm
by IanF
It sounded like the cyclist was accepting his error.. or am I mishearing/naive
