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Cork people aren't Irish though - they're "Cork" and don't you fucking forget it boi!!!!

Even I can't understand the Cork accent...

JLv3.0 wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 2:06 pm The Irish and Scottish seem unaware of the words "to be" and miss them out altogether. It's very odd.

"That room needs painted".

No, no - it's a brave effort but in fact the English version is "that room needs TO BE painted". Try again.

"Outwith" is my favourite Scottishism. Most Scots seem unaware that it's not a word anyone else uses.

I am usually pretty good with these things as I have worked with people from all over Europe (even the English - where necessary) since I left uni.

I was specifically asked about the use of “outwith” some years back. I had no idea it wasn’t widely used. I have made it my mission to teach it to many Johnny foreigners.

can someone put "outwith" in a sentence ???

The answer to that is outwith the scope of this response.

Mik will shortly going outwith his mates to the pub?

JLIC

GGIW

Surely this isn’t outwith the bounds of your comprehension Dinny?

It's just the underlying expression that outwith represents just seems so elegant, I assumed it outwith the vocabulary of your typical Scot...

dinny_g wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 4:55 pm It's just the underlying expression that outwith represents just seems so elegant, I assumed it TO BE outwith the vocabulary of your typical Scot...

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The lack of 'to be' is common here in Northern Ireland, I probably do it quite reguarly without thinking about it.

A funny one that I sent in a text recently after making a typo and not paying attention to autocorrect.... "I was surprised at how patriachic the Dutch are..." I meant to say "patriotic"

JLv3.0 wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 6:26 pm

dinny_g wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 4:55 pm It's just the underlying expression that outwith represents just seems so elegant, I assumed it TO BE outwith the vocabulary of your typical Scot...

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Noted...

To be.

Or not to be.

That... is the question.

NotoriousREV wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 3:17 pm

JLv3.0 wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 2:06 pm The Irish and Scottish seem unaware of the words "to be" and miss them out altogether. It's very odd.

"That room needs painted".

No, no - it's a brave effort but in fact the English version is "that room needs TO BE painted". Try again.

"Outwith" is my favourite Scottishism. Most Scots seem unaware that it's not a word anyone else uses.

Similar with Manc's saying "the next again day" rather than "the day after tomorrow"

Or the Irish saying “Tuesday week” instead of “Next Tuesday”

That's fair enough tbh. As a language we still haven't landed on the difference between 'this weekend' and 'next weekend:.

JLv3.0 wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 9:03 am That's fair enough tbh. As a language we still haven't landed on the difference between 'this weekend' and 'next weekend:.

I was just about to post on that...

This! Next weekend to me, is the one after the closest one.

And I do not like "yous" as a pluralisation, it seems to be central belt as it certainly was not something I was aware of growing up.

This room needs painting. That is how I have heard it, again only since I moved South though, I think the NE where I grew up is either well spoken or Doric aye quine etc, not really much in between.

How the fuck don’t people know the difference between this weekend and next weekend. You can’t even break it down to explain as it’s right fucking there.

McSwede wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 8:39 am

NotoriousREV wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 3:17 pm

JLv3.0 wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 2:06 pm The Irish and Scottish seem unaware of the words "to be" and miss them out altogether. It's very odd.

"That room needs painted".

No, no - it's a brave effort but in fact the English version is "that room needs TO BE painted". Try again.

"Outwith" is my favourite Scottishism. Most Scots seem unaware that it's not a word anyone else uses.

Similar with Manc's saying "the next again day" rather than "the day after tomorrow"

I've literally never heard anyone say that in my entire life.