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Re: BMW's naming strategy

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:18 pm
by McSwede
ste wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:10 pm ....of the 340i I mean.
I'm sure they'll be dropping that engine from the range in Mlite and non M cars for co2 reasons and going 4 banger in the new models

Re: BMW's naming strategy

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:39 pm
by McSwede
McSwede wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:18 pm
ste wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:10 pm ....of the 340i I mean.
I'm sure they'll be dropping that engine from the range in Mlite and non M cars for co2 reasons and going 4 banger in the new models
I may be talking out of my hat. See quite below from Autoexpress but they could well be just making it up to fill pages. 😂

The future 3 Series will also be offered with more variants, including new M-fettled versions that feature generous boosts in performance.

The first variant will be the rear-wheel-drive M340i M Performance, which will feature a 360bhp version of BMW’s twin-scroll turbocharged 3.0-litre inline six-cylinder petrol engine.

Re: BMW's naming strategy

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:10 pm
by JLv3.0
Again engaging old git mode, but I do miss the days of M cars having engines unique to that model, rather than just extra boosties. But then I live in the past, when I was young.

Re: BMW's naming strategy

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:59 pm
by Rich B
JLv3.0 wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:10 pm Again engaging old git mode, but I do miss the days of M cars having engines unique to that model, rather than just extra boosties. But then I live in the past, when I was young.
[waves from the past] 👋🏻

Re: BMW's naming strategy

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:14 pm
by integrale_evo
And bring back the man waving a red flag

( isn't that the usual response when someone says they prefer an older version of something? )

Re: BMW's naming strategy

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:17 pm
by JLv3.0
Rich B wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:59 pm
JLv3.0 wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:10 pm Again engaging old git mode, but I do miss the days of M cars having engines unique to that model, rather than just extra boosties. But then I live in the past, when I was young.
[waves from the past] 👋🏻
[ waves back]

Re: BMW's naming strategy

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:17 pm
by JLv3.0
integrale_evo wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:14 pm And bring back the man waving a red flag

( isn't that the usual response when someone says they prefer an older version of something? )
Only for dickheads mate, not you 🙂

Re: BMW's naming strategy

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:56 pm
by sec
McSwede wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:39 pm
McSwede wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:18 pm
ste wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:10 pm ....of the 340i I mean.
I'm sure they'll be dropping that engine from the range in Mlite and non M cars for co2 reasons and going 4 banger in the new models
I may be talking out of my hat. See quite below from Autoexpress but they could well be just making it up to fill pages. 😂

The future 3 Series will also be offered with more variants, including new M-fettled versions that feature generous boosts in performance.

The first variant will be the rear-wheel-drive M340i M Performance, which will feature a 360bhp version of BMW’s twin-scroll turbocharged 3.0-litre inline six-cylinder petrol engine.
Autocar and PH have both had first drives of the G series 330i (2 litre, 4 cylinder, 250 odd BHP) a few weeks ago, so i reckon that'll be one of the first models on these shores.

I see that Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaguar have dropped the 6-pot from the XE line up ;(

Re: BMW's naming strategy

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:18 pm
by JonMad
JLv3.0 wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:10 pm Again engaging old git mode, but I do miss the days of M cars having engines unique to that model, rather than just extra boosties. But then I live in the past, when I was young.
Is this still the case for full M rather than M Performance? </pedant> (still, a genuine question)

Re: BMW's naming strategy

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:19 pm
by JLv3.0
Yes.

Re: BMW's naming strategy

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:23 pm
by Simon
sec wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:56 pm
McSwede wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:39 pm
McSwede wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:18 pm

I'm sure they'll be dropping that engine from the range in Mlite and non M cars for co2 reasons and going 4 banger in the new models
I may be talking out of my hat. See quite below from Autoexpress but they could well be just making it up to fill pages. 😂

The future 3 Series will also be offered with more variants, including new M-fettled versions that feature generous boosts in performance.

The first variant will be the rear-wheel-drive M340i M Performance, which will feature a 360bhp version of BMW’s twin-scroll turbocharged 3.0-litre inline six-cylinder petrol engine.
Autocar and PH have both had first drives of the G series 330i (2 litre, 4 cylinder, 250 odd BHP) a few weeks ago, so i reckon that'll be one of the first models on these shores.

I see that Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaguar have dropped the 6-pot from the XE line up ;(
I believe the Jag was for WLTP reasons, but they're developing the Ingenium petrol into a straight 6 (as it's modular, like most engines nowadays) so I well imagine that will replace it.

Re: BMW's naming strategy

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:28 pm
by Mito Man
Remember the days when BMW M engines where hand built by a pair of technicians who must have had 8 years of previous experience at BMW and had to pass an exam where they had to assemble a complete engine and hand torque every nut and bolt to within 0.5 Nm?
None of this mass produced bollocks intertwined with GDPR.

Re: BMW's naming strategy

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:08 pm
by sec
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:17 pm Are we already back round to going through the whole history of incorrect BMW naming strategy?

Wife likes the X2. I don't dislike it apart from it a) being an SUV therefore turd and 2: it having rubbish drivetrain options (fwd and low power petrols).

Ergo this seems like a promising compromise. SUrprised it's not Xdrive though, given that the current top diesel engined models are :?: Or maybe just turd reporting
I can(just about) live with a 28i being a 2litre 4, but not so long ago (e39 & e65), a 35i used to be a V8!

Re: BMW's naming strategy

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:31 pm
by Rich B
sec wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:08 pm
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:17 pm Are we already back round to going through the whole history of incorrect BMW naming strategy?

Wife likes the X2. I don't dislike it apart from it a) being an SUV therefore turd and 2: it having rubbish drivetrain options (fwd and low power petrols).

Ergo this seems like a promising compromise. SUrprised it's not Xdrive though, given that the current top diesel engined models are :?: Or maybe just turd reporting
I can(just about) live with a 28i being a 2litre 4, but not so long ago (e39 & e65), a 35i used to be a V8!
go a bit further back and the 530i was a V8?

Re: BMW's naming strategy

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:46 pm
by ste
Yep.

I got excited when I first saw they'd added a 340i to the line up. I didn't initially realise it was the 335i replacement and imagined they'd stuck a v8 in the 3 series. :cry:

Re: BMW's naming strategy

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:55 pm
by Rich B
ste wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:46 pm imagined they'd stuck a v8 in the 3 series. :cry:
we can only imagine what that would be like...

Re: BMW's naming strategy

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:18 pm
by ste
Oh I get that the M3 exists, but if they'd dropped a V8 into a non-M touring that would have been really cool.