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A lot of people - and i mean a lot of people - online need to go touch some fucking grass.

And that's coming from me, who's terminally online.

We have a government who are less likely to go full on neo-liberal fuckwit, with a hint of fascism.

That's good enough for me, for now.

Yeah, I'm genuinely elated at the presence of a government that's not the Tories, so I'll happily drink to that.

Mito Man wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 10:55 am Think everyone behaved themselves pretty well. No riots after the election, no storming Westminster, nobody acting any differently outside.
I think if you’re not focused on political pages on social media it’s really not a big deal.

You would hope that there wasn't a chance of this, but Rishi spoke (whilst being trolled by a YouTuber) about a peaceful transition of power.

Early signs have been ok, everyone’s pretty happy at the James Timpson appointment.

The big “culture war” one is going to be women’s/equality minister.

Harriet Harman would be good, Rosie Duffield would be bad. Jess Philips would be a punt.

The idea of anyone rioting over a UK election, which is typically the epitome of beige as fuck, is kinda laughable.

That, and our riot police might have their issues - and they do - but one thing most people can agree on is that they're absolutely happy to kick the absolute shit out of actual rioters.

Rather than, you know, joining them.

The US is so very fucked right now.

Just checking all you lefties have wet your pants over the new leader.

I would’ve assumed you had drank yourself into a coma celebrating your favourite racists finally getting seats.

I think he's been eating the crayons again.

I don’t think anyone was expecting anything less than a well mannered transfer, surely those comments were more a dig at what’s going on in the US.

ZedLeg wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 3:02 pm Nah, if anything federalise more.

No one outside of London wants all the power consolidated there.

Think you may want to look up the definition of federalise

As for markets, this was priced in weeks , even months ago.. I think Starmer will be a good caretaker Primeminister, but I have serious misgivings about some of his Cabinet.

I was actually in Boston on the 4th July watching a lacklustre fireworks display.. pivotal moment in both our countries, but I feel proud that as European and Western powers swing further right, we have maintained a middle of the road, non populist government.

It was always said that Great Britain was a diplomatic powerhouse, far larger than our GDP should give, and yes partially due our language, but mostly because of steadfast nature, our dependability, our stiff upper lip! Chin chin!

IanF wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 6:47 pm caretaker

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dinny_g wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:10 pm

IanF wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 6:47 pm caretaker

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Although a caretaker is normally temporary, the key point is they typically maintain the status quo, not moving much, no major policy changes etc.

He’s a good pair of hands to maintain our heading during a potential period of geopolitical uncertainty.

I think you did perhaps word that poorly, but I get your point - they've got a massive majority, I can see some careful, but notable changes coming in in terms of general directions of funding and spending.

I think you're right insomuch as there won't be any 'sea change' political big hitters - IE they ain't bringing in UBI or anything.

But smaller changes like adjusting regulations around land usage for housing to enable building >1m new homes - a series of little things that would make a pretty substantial economic uptick by allowing more homes, more home ownership and so better credit availability meaning more spending, etc etc.

Just 'little things'.

If it goes well maybe they can campaign on something more radical - like renationalising water services and preventing raw human sewage being put into rivers, or similar - come next time.

dinny_g wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:08 am

Mito Man wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:41 am You mean Sunak?

No Starmer...

England were winning under Sunak - now they lost. Must be Starmer's fault

What does tonight's result mean?

I dunno?? Ferage gets shot???

IanF wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:27 pm

dinny_g wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:10 pm

IanF wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 6:47 pm caretaker

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Although a caretaker is normally temporary, the key point is they typically maintain the status quo, not moving much, no major policy changes etc.

He’s a good pair of hands to maintain our heading during a potential period of geopolitical uncertainty.

I really don’t think Starmer is a caretaker. A safe pair of hands would be a better description. He’s filled his first cabinet with sensible and knowledgeable ministers so there is strength in depth.

People go on about his family background in toolmaking, but to be fair - he has assembled a decent cabinet pretty quickly.

(Stolen from twitter)

Jobbo wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 11:31 pm I really don’t think Starmer is a caretaker. A safe pair of hands would be a better description. He’s filled his first cabinet with sensible and knowledgeable ministers so there is strength in depth.

I agree Jobbo - he’s not going to change the world overnight but he has to start changing things and right away. For the past number of years, there’s been a constant stream of saying Tory Policy is wrong and to blame and Labour policy will get results.

Well now’s your time - in effect, prove it.

I’ll be mighty disappointed if we vote for change but get largely the same

I'm starting to worry that I might actually approve of this new Labour government.

dinny_g wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:44 am

Jobbo wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 11:31 pm I really don’t think Starmer is a caretaker. A safe pair of hands would be a better description. He’s filled his first cabinet with sensible and knowledgeable ministers so there is strength in depth.

I agree Jobbo - he’s not going to change the world overnight but he has to start changing things and right away. For the past number of years, there’s been a constant stream of saying Tory Policy is wrong and to blame and Labour policy will get results.

Well now’s your time - in effect, prove it.

I’ll be mighty disappointed if we vote for change but get largely the same

First cabinet meeting held on a Saturday since Covid… he’s sending signals that they’re on it. The challenge will be getting results quickly too.