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Re: Sky Glass

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:26 pm
by IanF
My parents and gf have both said they’d have this rather than the mess of cables they have currently.

This is very similar to the argument we have on here of leasing a car vs saving up to buy one outright; there are valid arguments for both and it’ll come down to personal preference.

Personally, I think they’re using the Apple method of bring out a product that’s not very innovative but has a better, more polished UI than competitors previous attempts, and that’s not worked out too badly for them! 😂

Re: Sky Glass

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:45 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
IanF wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:26 pm My parents and gf have both said they’d have this rather than the mess of cables they have currently.
Tell htem to buy a smart TV then. :lol:

You'd have to really want Sky to want this product. I still don't get it despite Gavster's best efforts. As Rich and Mito suggest, it seems more about Sky trying to keep some sort of USP to extract cash from those who likely generally have less of it to spend than the average punter.

Re: Sky Glass

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:54 pm
by IanF
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:45 pm
IanF wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:26 pm My parents and gf have both said they’d have this rather than the mess of cables they have currently.
Tell htem to buy a smart TV then. :lol:

You'd have to really want Sky to want this product. I still don't get it despite Gavster's best efforts. As Rich and Mito suggest, it seems more about Sky trying to keep some sort of USP to extract cash from those who likely generally have less of it to spend than the average punter.
😂 Parents already have Sky Q (and 7 smart tv’s) and gf has VM (only 5 smart tvs), but they still need cables from the box to the TV and from the tv to the sound bars.. 🤷‍♂️

Like I said, some people will understand the demand for it, others won’t..

Re: Sky Glass

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:56 pm
by Delphi
Jobbo wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:13 am
Do you have to continue renting it in those circumstances?

I still don't get it, I'm afraid. Basically Sky are making a telly, in competition with Samsung, LG, Sony, Panasonic et al who update their TVs every year and whose products are getting cheaper all the time; why bother?
Clearly not, Si because as I've said before you're not renting the TV!!! You're buying it under a CCA in the same way you would a mobile phone, then once you've paid for it you only carry on paying for your subscription to Sky's service. The TV is yours.

Re: Sky Glass

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:59 pm
by Rich B
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:45 pm
IanF wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:26 pm My parents and gf have both said they’d have this rather than the mess of cables they have currently.
Tell htem to buy a smart TV then. :lol:

You'd have to really want Sky to want this product. I still don't get it despite Gavster's best efforts. As Rich and Mito suggest, it seems more about Sky trying to keep some sort of USP to extract cash from those who likely generally have less of it to spend than the average punter.
i have Sky and a 5 year old 42" smart tv - I use the sky box to do Netflix/Amazon/Disney because the UI is a million times nicer than any I've seen on any smart TVs. I don't really want to go out and spend a grand on a new bigger tv, but I'd quite like one.

I'd be tempted by £20 a month to have a nice new tv and I'd probably get that past the missus easily!

Re: Sky Glass

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 3:11 pm
by scotta
This place is getting hard work...

Re: Sky Glass

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 3:23 pm
by integrale_evo
How amazing can a UI be?

We have a roku connected to an ancient tv.

I press the hdmi button and it switches to the smart box, which has a page of nice big app tiles, you move around them with arrow keys and press ok. I don’t really understand the need to simplify it. My parents, mother in law and Mrs can all work them fine, I don’t know anyone older or even more tech illiterate I can give one to to try 😂

Re: Sky Glass

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 3:31 pm
by Mito Man
I use the firestick app on my iPhone. Can’t even be bothered faffing about with the remote anymore. Way better for typing into searches too.

Re: Sky Glass

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 3:36 pm
by Rich B
Mito Man wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 3:31 pm I use the firestick app on my iPhone. Can’t even be bothered faffing about with the remote anymore. Way better for typing into searches too.
typing? What is it, 20xx?

Re: Sky Glass

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:06 pm
by simon_g
I don’t like it but it’s not for me. Have steadily reduced the stuff attached to the TV and don’t even bother recording any more. Everything is easy to just stream when I want it and the Apple TV is pretty good at combining search and what I’m watching across the various services.

My parents though who’ve paid for an excessive Sky package for years just to watch the odd bit of sport or film, who’s soundbar is disconnected because they couldn’t be bothered with the faff? I could probably see them going for it.

Re: Sky Glass

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:18 pm
by JonMad
Built on over 30 years of understanding what our customers want, this is a TV that only Sky could make.
Well, yes, based on Sky customers.

As a non-Sky customer who finds the in-built TV sound quality perfectly adequate (getting the benefit of a surround sound system would involve playing it at a volume that would keep the kids awake, so just not worth it), I feel my £350 TV with all the streaming services I could need already built into it meets my needs.

Would this replace my DVD player*, kids' Karaoke machine, or Nintendo Wii that are cabled into it? I don't think so.
*Yes we still watch DVDs sometimes. Well, the kids do.

Cool project to be working on though.

Re: Sky Glass

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 6:15 pm
by jamcg
They’ll get a few sold just by selling it in pink

Re: Sky Glass

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 6:47 pm
by Beany
integrale_evo wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 3:23 pm How amazing can a UI be?
If it's good enough, you get an iPhone. Which was technologically behind the competition, but was nicer to use.

I'd guess this is what Sky are aiming for

Re: Sky Glass

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:09 pm
by IanF
jamcg wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 6:15 pm They’ll get a few sold just by selling it in pink
We all want it in the pink..

Re: Sky Glass

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:43 pm
by Mito Man
What about the stink?

Re: Sky Glass

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:46 pm
by Beany
Mito Man wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:43 pm What about the stink?
Only with informed consent

Re: Sky Glass

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:58 pm
by mik
JonMad wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:18 pm
As a non-Sky customer who finds the in-built TV sound quality perfectly adequate (getting the benefit of a surround sound system would involve playing it at a volume that would keep the kids awake, so just not worth it),
Meh - kids only develop deeper sleeping skills by being exposed to a bit of noise. ;)

Re: Sky Glass

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:04 am
by Jimexpl
I thought this thread was suitable for a job I’ve been doing - A 75” TV behind glass!
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I must say that there are not my preferred solution, and the design is wrong, but the interior designer sold the idea to the client and didn’t bring me on until after they had ordered the mirror.
The mirror is about 7ft x 9ft, and cost £12k before designer mark up.
The bottom of the TV is 6ft off the ground, about 3ft higher than you’d want it given the viewing distance.
The chandelier will certainly create reflections from n the screen.
They hadn’t thought about sound - you will hardly hear the tv now it’s behind a massive mirror!

I’ve installed a slimline wall mounted amplifier above the TV. In the two custom side tables I’ve had half of each enclosure sealed and routed out the back of the front face to 2mm and bonded Amina mobius speakers to them.

An expensive way to put an occasional use TV in your formal living room!

Re: Sky Glass

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:12 am
by Ascender
I've clearly not had enough coffee this morning as the logic behind that install and how it will work in practice is making my brain hurt.

Why do so many people seem to have their TVs mounted high on a wall instead of at eye level?

You have to admire Sky for coming up with a way to lock customers-in to their product, just like those contracts people take out so they can have the new iPhone every year. We gave up Sky years ago, but they do have a great UI which isn't to be underestimated - they clearly "get it" - I've said before, I can't believe the laggy Android UI on my LG TV - its amazing what some companies think is acceptable to ship.

Re: Sky Glass

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:03 pm
by Mito Man
Has anyone got this yet?
My dad mentioned that his existing Sky contract is over and has now gone to something silly like £109 per month. Getting a Sky Glass and addional box (puck?) is way cheaper plus he reckons Starlink is now fast enough to support it so no more “no signal” whenever there’s adverse weather.

He has a big TV set up with home cinema so I’m wondering if it’s possible to just chuck the Sky Glass in the bedroom where it will be barely used and use the puck on the main TV?
Does the puck have all the regular Sky functions like 4K, record, Dolby Atmos and all the channels?