Re: EV Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:12 pm
The iPace claimed a range of 290 miles but at motorway speeds it was well under 150. Not a huge issue if you usually do short local journeys.
When we travel with friends we question how they spend so much time achieving fuck all on stopsCarlos wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:02 am I'm no EVangelist but you 2 sound like my dad
I don't think I've ever driven more than 200 miles without a break of some sort whether that's for a toilet stop, food, drink or just to stretch my legs and if you can do these things in less than 20 minutes particularly with a spouse, kids and dogs in tow it must be like a military operation
30 mins No chance. In and out of the services as quick as humanly possible spending no money or as little as possible with the robbing c#nts. I hate having to see cars/trucks that I've already passed again too
Our daily mileage is small, we can go a week without touching the car but then a weekend could be lots of miles and the space is needed. They just aren’t flexible enough yet.Barry wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 12:04 pm Everyone fixating on not adapting their driving to suit a small change in routine I see. You should be taking a 30 min break every 150/200 miles in this country, so that's plenty to top up a modern EV to do the same again
That said, there OP said daily sub 100 miles. Even my basic Ioniq will do that easily, without needing to touch the charging network. Charge at home each night.
This, I don't mind driving 12 hours straight with just fuel stops. If I do want to stop for lunch I usually pick a nice town off the motorway. Driving on the motorway is just sitting in a comfortable sofa with minimal thinking, what stresses out or tires people so much about itMcSwede wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:04 pm30 mins No chance. In and out of the services as quick as humanly possible spending no money or as little as possible with the robbing c#nts. I hate having to see cars/trucks that I've already passed again too
Fuel up locally too as I will not pay m/way prices for that.
I'll repeat again that they're robbing c#nts that give you shit facilities and over priced outlets to buy shit food from. (not Tebay FWIW).
If a Model X is too small I can't see you ever having an EV lol
My responses are for private use, you're talking about business cases which is obviously a different model. Your average private car owner does a 30 mile commute, and light weekend use, with the occasion longer trip for holidays/whatever. You couldn't use my petrol car for a 480 mile round trip without refuelling it either. There are already EVs that rapid charge at an incredible rate, so we're still just waiting on the network to catch up.Simon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:33 pm Baz,
You don't seem to appreciate that (out of pandemic times) there are plenty of people who drive a lot with work. When I need to see a most northerly customer it's about 240 miles each way at the top end, but that isn't rare. I will do it without stopping each way as on the way back stopping will usually push me into the middle of rush hour. And you can't charge for the that distance in just 30 minutes.
And destination charging doesn't work either. "I'm here for my meeting, oh and can I plug my car in please?"
My Mrs could have an electric car for her driving, (mostly, although it's still the family car when we all go away somewhere), but for my use an electric car is a pipe dream.
I don't disagree with you as such. An ev would work a treat for my missus and the way she uses a car. For me, much less so if I'm doing 35k per year.Barry wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:58 pmMy responses are for private use, you're talking about business cases which is obviously a different model. Your average private car owner does a 30 mile commute, and light weekend use, with the occasion longer trip for holidays/whatever. You couldn't use my petrol car for a 480 mile round trip without refuelling it either. There are already EVs that rapid charge at an incredible rate, so we're still just waiting on the network to catch up.Simon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:33 pm Baz,
You don't seem to appreciate that (out of pandemic times) there are plenty of people who drive a lot with work. When I need to see a most northerly customer it's about 240 miles each way at the top end, but that isn't rare. I will do it without stopping each way as on the way back stopping will usually push me into the middle of rush hour. And you can't charge for the that distance in just 30 minutes.
And destination charging doesn't work either. "I'm here for my meeting, oh and can I plug my car in please?"
My Mrs could have an electric car for her driving, (mostly, although it's still the family car when we all go away somewhere), but for my use an electric car is a pipe dream.
As for destination charging, that'll come in time, it has to. I'm not an EV evangelist trying to get you all onto EVs, I couldn't care less, I just don't understand why people are expecting new EVs to cover everyone's use case, or they write them off..
It really is, the floor is surprisingly high and the centre seat in the middle can’t fit an adult. The back of my head hits the roof in the taxis I’ve been in and I’m 5 foot 11. It wouldn’t be a problem if you didn’t permanently need the final row of seats down to fit the dog/ dogs.
The problem is the government are doing just that.Barry wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:58 pmI'm not an EV evangelist trying to get you all onto EVs, I couldn't care less, I just don't understand why people are expecting new EVs to cover everyone's use case, or they write them off..Simon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:33 pm Baz,
You don't seem to appreciate that (out of pandemic times) there are plenty of people who drive a lot with work. When I need to see a most northerly customer it's about 240 miles each way at the top end, but that isn't rare. I will do it without stopping each way as on the way back stopping will usually push me into the middle of rush hour. And you can't charge for the that distance in just 30 minutes.
And destination charging doesn't work either. "I'm here for my meeting, oh and can I plug my car in please?"
My Mrs could have an electric car for her driving, (mostly, although it's still the family car when we all go away somewhere), but for my use an electric car is a pipe dream.
It's at least 13 years since I've owned a car that _doesn't_ do 480 (motorway) miles on a tank, and I've never owned a diesel.Barry wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:58 pmMy responses are for private use, you're talking about business cases which is obviously a different model. Your average private car owner does a 30 mile commute, and light weekend use, with the occasion longer trip for holidays/whatever. You couldn't use my petrol car for a 480 mile round trip without refuelling it either.Simon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:33 pm Baz,
You don't seem to appreciate that (out of pandemic times) there are plenty of people who drive a lot with work. When I need to see a most northerly customer it's about 240 miles each way at the top end, but that isn't rare. I will do it without stopping each way as on the way back stopping will usually push me into the middle of rush hour. And you can't charge for the that distance in just 30 minutes.
And destination charging doesn't work either. "I'm here for my meeting, oh and can I plug my car in please?"
My Mrs could have an electric car for her driving, (mostly, although it's still the family car when we all go away somewhere), but for my use an electric car is a pipe dream.
I’ve done 350 miles straight in the i3 which was the genius of it. Switched on the range extender after 20 miles which kept the battery around 70% and just continued driving at 85 mph for vast amounts of it. Kept a 10l Jerry can in the frunk for convenience but the range extender would work indefinitely. Stopped off at friend and stayed the night in Sunderland, didn’t need to search for a charger or bother to ask them for electricity or suffer range anxiety or stop every 2 hours for 40 minutes.Carlos wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:16 pm You fuckers have taken the fun right out of my new purchase.
I think I'm going to knock it on the head until the market can supply:
1. 480 mile range
2. Space for at least 5 100kg people plus 2 dogs and 2 weeks of camping shit.
3. Charge stations every 25 miles able to charge to 100% quicker than my kids can pee.
4. Seats that provide 12 hour comfort.
5. High quality food and hydration preparation built in to the cup holders.