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Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 5:21 pm**

DeskJockey wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 2:40 pm Article states that they're consuming/planning to consume 79% of output for mining.

Which will also be converted to heat, none of that 79% is being exported as useful energy. So in total, 90% of the gas going in gets turned into waste heat.

And does that 79% include the heat generated by the huge HVAC system required to prevent the entire mining rig melting ? I assume so.

I am not a fan of this crypto stuff. I've no doubt some people will be getting very rich but it's not going to be the retail investors. It's all a Ponzi scheme.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 5:55 pm**

The KW of gas energy going into the plant will be gone so if 50% goes to electrical that will be 170MW consumed. So if that 50% turned into mining it will essentially all get turned into heat.

The efficiency somewhere like that will be on parasitic load, so for example to run out 5.6MW engine we consume 170kW of power to run radiator fans, cooling fans and pumps etc.

Now if that 85MW of load needs 10MW of cooling (I have no idea on power consumption of electronics, Brant may have an idea) then that will drop the efficiency to a much greater degree as it is not producing anything.

Parasitic load is the big one as that is taken off after the initial thermal efficiency of the generator is already taken into account.

Dave!

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 7:29 pm**

Would be a hilarious waste of money getting that set up if it all became worthless overnight. Here's hoping.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 7:37 pm**

duncs500 wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 7:29 pm Would be a hilarious waste of money getting that set up if it all became worthless overnight. Here's hoping it rolls up up and up so Dave can buy an Espada and rescue all the dogs.

Won’t anybody think of the poor doggy’s

Dave!

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 7:41 pm**

V8Granite wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 7:37 pm
duncs500 wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 7:29 pm Would be a hilarious waste of money getting that set up if it all became worthless overnight. Here's hoping it rolls up up and up so Dave can buy an Espada and rescue all the dogs.
Won’t anybody think of the poor doggy’s

Dave!

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:00 pm**

V8Granite wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 5:55 pm The KW of gas energy going into the plant will be gone so if 50% goes to electrical that will be 170MW consumed. So if that 50% turned into mining it will essentially all get turned into heat.

The efficiency somewhere like that will be on parasitic load, so for example to run out 5.6MW engine we consume 170kW of power to run radiator fans, cooling fans and pumps etc.

Now if that 85MW of load needs 10MW of cooling (I have no idea on power consumption of electronics, Brant may have an idea) then that will drop the efficiency to a much greater degree as it is not producing anything.

Parasitic load is the big one as that is taken off after the initial thermal efficiency of the generator is already taken into account.

Dave!

regardless of efficiency/heat/MWs it's simply being produced and wasted purely to say "I've wasted it". In a world where we are all completely aware of the damage caused by wasting resources it's incredible that it can exist.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:09 pm**

Rich B wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 8:00 pm
V8Granite wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 5:55 pm The KW of gas energy going into the plant will be gone so if 50% goes to electrical that will be 170MW consumed. So if that 50% turned into mining it will essentially all get turned into heat.

The efficiency somewhere like that will be on parasitic load, so for example to run out 5.6MW engine we consume 170kW of power to run radiator fans, cooling fans and pumps etc.

Now if that 85MW of load needs 10MW of cooling (I have no idea on power consumption of electronics, Brant may have an idea) then that will drop the efficiency to a much greater degree as it is not producing anything.

Parasitic load is the big one as that is taken off after the initial thermal efficiency of the generator is already taken into account.

Dave!
regardless of efficiency/heat/MWs it's simply being produced and wasted purely to say "I've wasted it". In a world where we are all completely aware of the damage caused by wasting resources it's incredible that it can exist.

Honestly, it's shit like this that will cause it be legislated out of useful existence, at which point having a crypto wallet will be probable cause for investigations into the purchase of drugs or child porn, because that's literally all it'll be good for.

And on that day, I will laugh heartily. Because I'm a horrible, horrible cunt.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:11 pm**

This made me laugh earlier

Goldman Sachs executive quits after making millions from Dogecoin

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... m-dogecoin

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:28 pm**

Rich B wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 8:00 pm
V8Granite wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 5:55 pm The KW of gas energy going into the plant will be gone so if 50% goes to electrical that will be 170MW consumed. So if that 50% turned into mining it will essentially all get turned into heat.

The efficiency somewhere like that will be on parasitic load, so for example to run out 5.6MW engine we consume 170kW of power to run radiator fans, cooling fans and pumps etc.

Now if that 85MW of load needs 10MW of cooling (I have no idea on power consumption of electronics, Brant may have an idea) then that will drop the efficiency to a much greater degree as it is not producing anything.

Parasitic load is the big one as that is taken off after the initial thermal efficiency of the generator is already taken into account.

Dave!
regardless of efficiency/heat/MWs it's simply being produced and wasted purely to say "I've wasted it". In a world where we are all completely aware of the damage caused by wasting resources it's incredible that it can exist.

I’m surprised Elon is involved at all if I’m honest.

Dave!

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:57 pm**

I don’t think Elon personally gives nearly as much of a crap about the environment as it’s made out. He’s just collecting vast sums of money to build a civilisation on Mars at this point. The whole backing crypto, razing a forest to build a factory, selling carbon credits to other car manufacturers thereby in effect negating their own zero emission ambitions, asking for new cobalt mines to be opened up...

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 8:18 am**

http://t.email3.telegraph.co.uk/r/?id=h ... NEHg_ZPyoI

Elon Musk stops Tesla from taking Bitcoin payments due to fossil fuel concerns

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 8:20 am**

Broccers wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 8:18 am http://t.email3.telegraph.co.uk/r/?id=h ... NEHg_ZPyoI

Elon Musk stops Tesla from taking Bitcoin payments due to fossil fuel concerns

did he only just realise?!

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 8:40 am**

Probably shorted the whole crypto market as it's in free fall

https://www.coindesk.com/

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/13/bitcoin ... rypto.html

As much as $365 billion wiped off cryptocurrency market after Tesla stops car purchases with bitcoin

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 9:08 am**

https://www.saveplanetearth.io/

This showed up in my feed a couple of hours before Elon’s announcement, maybe Elon has a few billion of these

Dave!

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 9:48 am**

Broccers wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:10 pm Well my inability to buy it a 5 cents. Could have been a millionaire and as rich as shocker in the space of a few weeks.

Do we all think theres an almighty crash coming for Crypto or is it just taking off?

You started this thread 8 days ago Broccers - that's a pretty quick peak and crash. Don't take a moment off if you're investing in crypto; a moment's inattention could cost you your retirement

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 9:50 am**

Jobbo wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 9:48 am
Broccers wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:10 pm Well my inability to buy it a 5 cents. Could have been a millionaire and as rich as shocker in the space of a few weeks.

Do we all think theres an almighty crash coming for Crypto or is it just taking off?
You started this thread 8 days ago Broccers - that's a pretty quick peak and crash. Don't take a moment off if you're investing in crypto; a moment's inattention could cost you your retirement

I know right? The only money I have spent is a tenner luckily.

Following this on twitter it shows huge amounts of money moving around all of a sudden.

https://twitter.com/whale_alert

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 10:22 am**

Musks power to manipulate mkts is quite frankly astounding!

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 10:27 am**

Foz wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 10:22 am Musks power to manipulate mkts is quite frankly astounding!

He could make hundreds of millions with a few well timed tweets and he probably has.

Dave!

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 10:32 am**

I was looking at buying some alt coins the last week and waiting for a dip. Thanks Elon.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 10:32 am**

V8Granite wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 10:27 am
Foz wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 10:22 am Musks power to manipulate mkts is quite frankly astounding!
He could make hundreds of millions with a few well timed tweets and he probably has.

Dave!

He got in trouble with the SEC for exactly that.

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