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Re: Muzzles*!!!
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:20 am
by Mito Man
They can’t all be Uber drivers can they

Re: Muzzles*!!!
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:48 pm
by drcarlos
I've been away on holiday for a week and needed to visits a few places that required masks (shopping, attractions, ferry).
What I felt is that for a short period (buying a pint of milk or getting a takeaway) and no stress (ie not climbing stairs) they are fine, but several times we had to visit shops for a larger amount of shopping (as there is obviously no internet ordering to a campsite). Once we started to get to the 30 minute timescale both me and the wife were both beginning to feel ill with what can only be described as feeling of disorientation and nausea.
This wasn't just once but 3 times and all around the same time and same symptoms. We were both wearing tight fitting cloths masks just like those recommended.
When we had to climb stairs on the boat both going and coming the symptoms were similar but bought on much quicker by the mild exercise.
Within a few minutes of mask removal I was back to normal.
This is from someone who is a little overweight but can crank out a 23 mile offroad ride in under 2 hours and not be a wreck, so i'm not uber fit but i'm no slug either.
Anyone had any similar experiences?
I am pretty uncomfortable going forwards now wearing them and have a 4 hour boat journey to France coming up so I'll be paying extra for a cabin so I can hide away and go mask free.
Re: Muzzles*!!!
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:51 pm
by unzippy
Maybe try a different mask?
Re: Muzzles*!!!
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:57 pm
by Gwaredd
No. I fitted some graphics to a car this morning. Took about an hour and it was super hot in there. I was pissing sweat, but not once did the mask bother me. Mine is a fitted ffp3 jobbie though, not material.
Re: Muzzles*!!!
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:10 pm
by ZedLeg
Possibly psychosomatic?
Wearing masks triggers my anxiety for some reason so I’ll easily fall into having a panic attack if I’m not careful. I can wear it for extended periods with no issue though, I just have to be careful if I start getting stressed.
Re: Muzzles*!!!
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:16 pm
by scotta
I dont mind having to wear them in shops. I wont however go to the cinema and wear one for 2 or 3 hours.
Re: Muzzles*!!!
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:22 pm
by Simon
drcarlos wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:48 pm
I've been away on holiday for a week and needed to visits a few places that required masks (shopping, attractions, ferry).
What I felt is that for a short period (buying a pint of milk or getting a takeaway) and no stress (ie not climbing stairs) they are fine, but several times we had to visit shops for a larger amount of shopping (as there is obviously no internet ordering to a campsite). Once we started to get to the 30 minute timescale both me and the wife were both beginning to feel ill with what can only be described as feeling of disorientation and nausea.
This wasn't just once but 3 times and all around the same time and same symptoms. We were both wearing tight fitting cloths masks just like those recommended.
When we had to climb stairs on the boat both going and coming the symptoms were similar but bought on much quicker by the mild exercise.
Within a few minutes of mask removal I was back to normal.
This is from someone who is a little overweight but can crank out a 23 mile offroad ride in under 2 hours and not be a wreck, so i'm not uber fit but i'm no slug either.
Anyone had any similar experiences?
I am pretty uncomfortable going forwards now wearing them and have a 4 hour boat journey to France coming up so I'll be paying extra for a cabin so I can hide away and go mask free.
I have a deviated septum, inflamed nasal turbinates and excessive post nasal drip. I have some sympathy for what you're saying as it's difficult for me to breathe with that trilogy at the best of times. I'm using the 'proper' masks too, not a material one. As such I'm limiting the amount of time in shops instead. No-way would I go on a plane anywhere at the moment what with the need to wear one for hours at a time.
Masks are a necessary evil but uncomfortable. I don't begrudge having to wear one though.
Re: Muzzles*!!!
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:31 pm
by drcarlos
unzippy wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:51 pm
Maybe try a different mask?
I do have a respro (
https://respro.com/store/product/techno-plus) I use for racing when it's dusty and has replaceable filters, however when I looked I wasn't sure it met the guidelines as it has outbound bypass valves. Wearing it when racing I've suffered zero ill effects (even under maximum stress) so maybe i'll just get the new filters I need and use that.
[mention]Gwaredd[/mention] I've just looked at those fitted fppe3 masks, not cheap for something that's disposable and not tax deductable for me, I'd rather go down the respro route at a similar cost as it will serve me when this is done too.
[mention]ZedLeg[/mention] No issues with mask wearing psycologically, as I said above I've worn the respro for years (about 17 now) when racing when it's dusty under a helmet and walking around in the open running race meetings to minimise the black snot syndrome we get, this was definitely a physical feeling.
Re: Muzzles*!!!
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:35 pm
by Jobbo
ZedLeg wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:10 pm
Wearing masks triggers my anxiety
Avoid the wrong sort of mask:

Re: Muzzles*!!!
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:55 pm
by Nathan
Simon wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:22 pm
I have a deviated septum, inflamed nasal turbinates and excessive post nasal drip. I have some sympathy for what you're saying as it's difficult for me to breathe with that trilogy at the best of times...
Out of interest, do you suffer from sleep apnea and wake with a sore head in the morning ?
Re: Muzzles*!!!
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:54 pm
by Simon
Mildly and occasionally, yes.
Re: Muzzles*!!!
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:03 am
by Explosive Newt
I wore my Force8 respirator to Waitrose once but to be honest, I looked self consciously crazy. And it has bypass valves anyway so isn’t really the right thing anyway. Got some cheap cloth ones for free from work which are fine but I’ve also ordered a more classy looking Houndstooth one from Charles Tyrwitt.
https://www.ctshirts.com/uk/mens-acces ... ace-masks/
Re: Muzzles*!!!
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:17 am
by Rich B
Amazing how we’ve even started turning items of PPE into fashion items, like it matters what colour your mask is!
I reckon there’s an opening for Cristal brand hand sanitiser next!
Re: Muzzles*!!!
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:58 am
by V8Granite
Rich B wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:17 am
Amazing how we’ve even started turning items of PPE into fashion items, like it matters what colour your mask is!
I reckon there’s an opening for Cristal brand hand sanitiser next!
The wife made a couple
For me out of some old kids t-shirts and a pair of tights
London fashion week awaits.
Dave!
Re: Muzzles*!!!
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:03 am
by Ascender
The proper lightweight PPE ones they use in hospitals seem to be much less restrictive and claustrophobic feeling than the heavier cotton, homemade ones we’re al buying. I wonder if its the relative weight/bulk feeling that makes them unpleasant to wear? The difference between the two I wore at the hospital - first mine, then theirs was night and day - even when just sitting reading a book for a while, so i do get how people are struggling with them.
Re: Muzzles*!!!
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:50 am
by Gwaredd
V8Granite wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:58 am
The wife made a couple
For me and a pair of tights
I hope she didn't use the crotch area (unless you're into that sort of thing?)
Re: Muzzles*!!!
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:46 am
by Swervin_Mervin
Gwaredd wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:50 am
V8Granite wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:58 am
The wife made a couple
For me and a pair of tights
I hope she didn't use the crotch area (unless you're into that sort of thing?)

Re: Muzzles*!!!
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:47 pm
by V8Granite
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:46 am
Gwaredd wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:50 am
V8Granite wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:58 am
The wife made a couple
For me and a pair of tights
I hope she didn't use the crotch area (unless you're into that sort of thing?)
The world is a bright and varied place, we must embrace our cravings
No it was the leg, when rolled it doesn’t hurt behind the ear after wearing it for a long time.
Or I just love the smell of a bit of shin
Dave!
Re: Muzzles*!!!
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:35 pm
by Gwaredd
Gross!