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duncs500 wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:45 am Question for our Scottish chums: Is the general feeling that NS is acting in the best interest of Scotland by always being slightly more cautious than the English rules or do you think she is using it as a political opportunity to show that Westminster are a callous bunch and that you'd be better off ruled by her?

I feel like if I was a business owner in Scotland I'd be a bit peeved at watching all the English businesses open up when the infection rate is pretty low in Scotland.

Probably the answer is it depends on your political persuasion.

Explosive Newt wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:46 am

Explosive Newt wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:04 am Off for my vaccine (or placebo) this afternoon as part of the Oxford trial. I was quite surprised that when they ran my serology it came back negative, but I guess the PPE works after all.

Oof, I felt that. Worse than the last flu vaccine, spent all of Sunday in bed.

Nefarious wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:07 am

duncs500 wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:45 am Question for our Scottish chums: Is the general feeling that NS is acting in the best interest of Scotland by always being slightly more cautious than the English rules or do you think she is using it as a political opportunity to show that Westminster are a callous bunch and that you'd be better off ruled by her?

I feel like if I was a business owner in Scotland I'd be a bit peeved at watching all the English businesses open up when the infection rate is pretty low in Scotland.

Probably the answer is it depends on your political persuasion.

I dont think the two are mutually exclusive - NS has earned some credibility even among SNP opponents in her handling of the announcements and explanation of the rules. In contract to Johnson/Hancock/Raab etc, she's come across as consistent, pragmatic and sympathetic. To some extent it's an open political goal, because her hands are tied on a lot of the actual policy making, and it's not difficult to come across as level-headed and reasonable in comparison to the dishonest flapping shit show from downing street.
So, yeah, political points are definitely being scored, but I'd say, on the whole, she's taken more of the Scottish population with her on the strategy of a longer lockdown on the promise of a more normal normal at the end, and there definitely seems to be less immediate clamour up here to get out to pubs etc than it appears down in England...

Broccers wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:02 pm 16 more deaths but headlines are the total.

It's almost as if it's a huge MSM con.

Orange Cola wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:24 pm

Broccers wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:02 pm 16 more deaths but headlines are the total.

It's almost as if it's a huge MSM con.

Where are you getting that figure from?

NHS says 15 today, covering the weekend.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/s ... ly-deaths/

Edit: here, at least it’s a reputable source!

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Broccers wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:16 pm

Orange Cola wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:24 pm

Broccers wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:02 pm 16 more deaths but headlines are the total.

It's almost as if it's a huge MSM con.

Where are you getting that figure from?

NHS says 15 today, covering the weekend.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/s ... ly-deaths/

Edit: here, at least it’s a reputable source!

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

15/16 hardly a lot

unzippy wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:54 am Local re-lock down in 13 postcodes here in Melb until the end of July. Back to:
There are only four reasons you can leave your house: for work or school, for care or care giving, for daily exercise, and for food and other essentials. You cannot leave your postcode except for work. Likewise, you can only travel into these areas for work you have to do in person, or to provide or receive care.

Also a "Hard" lockdown in 9 tower blocks - that's 3,000 residents banned from leaving their homes for at least five days.

unzippy wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:00 am

unzippy wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:54 am Local re-lock down in 13 postcodes here in Melb until the end of July. Back to:
There are only four reasons you can leave your house: for work or school, for care or care giving, for daily exercise, and for food and other essentials. You cannot leave your postcode except for work. Likewise, you can only travel into these areas for work you have to do in person, or to provide or receive care.

Also a "Hard" lockdown in 9 tower blocks - that's 3,000 residents banned from leaving their homes for at least five days.

Now stage 3 lockdown for the entire Melbourne metropolitan area, starting from Weds midnight, for another 6 weeks.

No more pub.

Broccers wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:07 am @unzippy are deaths up or just infections? Is summer ending?

Marv wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:44 am

Broccers wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:07 am @unzippy are deaths up or just infections? Is summer ending?

Middle of winter down under, right now.

Broccers wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:51 am

Marv wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:44 am

Broccers wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:07 am @unzippy are deaths up or just infections? Is summer ending?

Middle of winter down under, right now.

Interesting to see what happens. The demographic of people who have passed away would certainly be useful for those to protect themselves here. After all it seems its life as normal for most.

Broccers wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:33 am So noone lives in tower blocks Zedleg..... tiresome fella.

ZedLeg wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:53 am

Broccers wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:33 am So noone lives in tower blocks Zedleg..... tiresome fella.

Any data you get regarding the effectiveness of localised lockdowns etc wouldn’t be relevant here as the population density is completely different.

Orange Cola wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:54 am Yeah, and Australia’s winter is about the same as one of our typical British summers!