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I can't imagine any car could be filled for £50, crazy figures. It costs me £100 to fill my XE

Jobbo wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 3:23 pm I don’t think a full tank of petrol in an F-Pace would be £50 60l would cost £102 at £1.70/litre and it would use 60l to do 400 miles at 30mpg.

Even 30mpg might be a little optimistic unless it's a cruise.

If the I-pace did 3kw/mile, it would need 133.33kw to do 400 miles, which would be £69.33 at the 52p cap rate. Not a massive difference but a lot of EV drivers use night rates anyway, so for those four hours you could add 28kw (about 84miles) each night if you're at home each night and not doing big distances each day. Actually, Octopus is from 12am - 7am so this would add 168 miles for only £11.20 at a 20.8p per unit.

It’s the EV version of hypermiling.

Articles like this are stupid, the logic in many cases go both ways and nitpicking certain scenarios just looks like an odd way to argue.

Just looking at the farce that was the Gloucester services ev group is enough to tell me it’s still not for me. Crossing charge leads, people hanging by the chargers and about double the amount of cars hovering for the next charger.

Petrol station style chargers with space for a queueing system so it’s first come, first served. When the car is charged they should leave.

Dave!

Broccers wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:44 pm https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consu ... un-petrol/

Electric vehicles will become very impractical, I imagine, once rolling 1970s style blackouts mean you can't charge them at all...

CORRECTION: This is a rewrite of an original article entitled ‘Electric cars will be more expensive to run than petrol’. The original article was based on flawed methodology and contained factual errors. We apologise for the errors and are happy to correct the record.

Even the rewrite reads like propaganda.

I can't see many people buying an iPace to reduce their transport costs

Steering wheel becomes a table!? Genius!

Coming soon to eBay, a steering wheel lockout defeat device which allows you to drive it with the wheel in table mode

They’ll be needing it with how much stopping to charge up they have to do if it’s driven like a normal transit - overloaded, 100mph on the motorway and pulling an overweight trailer.

A mate at work just bought a new Skoda Enyaq, had it for about 35 minutes before the battery blew up! Loud bang and ground to a halt apparently, he now has a Q7 courtesy car because Skoda don't have any EV mechanics to look at it!

An ID3 owning mate had a battery fault and turns out all models with the same battery have the issue, I wonder if the Enyaq has the same battery system.

Dave!

V8Granite wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:50 pm An ID3 owning mate had a battery fault and turns out all models with the same battery have the issue, I wonder if the Enyaq has the same battery system.

Dave!

Enyaq is the ID4 in a different frock. So entirely likely.

Good video by Technology Connections on (us oriented) electric cars and charging.

Yes it's an hour, but it's worth setting aside the time.

Broccers wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 9:32 am

mik wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 8:56 am

Broccers wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 8:45 am A mate had a taycan gts yesterday so we took it for a spin. Pretty rapid and handled pretty well for a 2 tonne beast.

More like 2.3 tonnes I think.

It was teh wagon version too. There's a vid on my instagram stories of it taking off in the rain. Impressed. The colour was orrible.......

After using this for a while he decided to get a 991.2 turbo s

Broccers wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:21 am

Broccers wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 9:32 am

mik wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 8:56 am

More like 2.3 tonnes I think.

It was teh wagon version too. There's a vid on my instagram stories of it taking off in the rain. Impressed. The colour was orrible.......

After using this for a while he decided to get a 991.2 turbo s

Well done!

I see that its not just the cult of Tesla active on social media now... there seems to be a growing amount of people who will not hear any criticism of how EVs are now the BEST THING EVER and any alternative views will be met with furious anger and pile-ons.

Yeah it’s all a bit strange.

What annoys is 2 sides, there is a side who will bring up rubbish like tyre dust, look how they pollute, worst things ever. When the argument of “I just don’t like how they drive/look/love petrol” etc is perfectly valid.

Then the other side who say that you can do everything your petrol car does, without accepting that you want faster journey times/ hate stopping at services, don’t need a wee every 2 hours etc etc. they should be happy that the slowish adoption keeps the prices down for the early adopters.

The faster the infrastructure and battery tech get to be ok for everyone’s use case the better.

Hopefully sense is kept and petrol/ diesel lovers aren’t taxed off the roads but the crystal ball will never know that.

Dave!

Ascender wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:51 am


Well done!

I see that its not just the cult of Tesla active on social media now... there seems to be a growing amount of people who will not hear any criticism of how EVs are now the BEST THING EVER and any alternative views will be met with furious anger and pile-ons.

People are weird eh?

So many EV converts now hate IC, but even then there are subgroups.

“Uh - they are even making big 4x4 EV’s now”

Yeah that’s what my wife got. We do have 2 kids and 3 fairly large dogs though.

“Urgh. Not one of us after alls”

I also saw a number of Twitter posts crowing that electricity prices were heading skywards - posters seemingly delighted that this would mean EVs are far more expensive to run. Yeah cheers.

I don't think it's crowing about leccy being expensive, just a retort to that smug 'my car only costs £10 to fill' nonsense you get from many EV owners...

Everyone wants validation for their own choices at the end of the day, both sides need to give their heads a wobble IMO.

Simon wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:04 pm ... 'my car only costs £10 to fill' nonsense you get from many EV owners...

I've seen that a lot recently.

Ironically, its also still common to see posts complaining about the public charging network - chargers out of order; slow; blocked etc etc. Still feels like we're not quite there yet and the same can be said about the cars themselves I guess, as we've discussed on here...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63371759

Report solely looks at scotlands charging network, but a scathing report non the less. BBC found faults on 23.4% of the network, but somehow Transport Scotland says it was 98% operational. Looks like they’ve done the usual government thing of finding a metric that looks good in their favour instead of the simplest form of measurement which is ultimately the reason our electric charging network will continue to be rubbish for many years to come