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dinny_g wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:21 pm Unfortunately, I fear we're moving in the other direction - at least in terms of political thought.

Everything seems to be just so extreme these days. It's not Tory V Labour, Conservative V Socialist anymore. It's Racist, Thieving, Liar Vs Leftie Workshy Commie!!! Gammon Vs Remoaner

We're so focused on our differences, I can't see a way back if I'm honest.

The problem with discussing politics at the moment is that so much of what the government has done over the last decade has been actively harmful to people and the rhetoric coming from them now suggests they've got worse to come.

I'm not sure I can find common ground with anyone that supports them.

The problem is that with effectively only two parties and FPtP, they keep having to bend to accommodate fringe elements thus amplifying the effect and those voices. That's how the ERG became so powerful and why Con lurched right to avoid the kippers stealing voters.

If you had more parties that could win seats there'd be less extremes in the larger parties and while some of the smaller parties would gain seats, they would be less able to become kingmakers (although it isn't a guarantee obviously).

If the fringe is more exposed and less in the mainstream it should dampen the extremes as the others can be clearer about their messaging and also clearly distance themselves.

That's my point Zed...

@Carlos - it is a social media thing but vast swathes of the electorate live on social media and that proportion is only going to get bigger, exacerbating the issue. The form their opinions by what they read online and not by Face to Face.

I bet of me and Zed sat down over a pint, we could easily see more of each others "Side" but for now, he's leftie commie, militant union loving workshy cvnt...

Like, I’m sure outside of politics most people are decent but I wouldn’t trust anyone who would consider voting for the tories as they are just now.

ZedLeg wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:20 pm Like, I’m sure outside of politics most people are decent but I wouldn’t trust anyone who would consider voting for the tories as they are just now.

Except the majority of the tory party, I can't see any of them being decent outside of politics.

In first

speedingfine wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:18 pm In first

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Blimey - big news

Don’t think I’ve ever been so excited to hear 2 cabinet ministers have quit!

Broccers, earlier.

Surely one or both of them are going to take a run at triggering a leadership election.

Bloody hell, never mind calling Zelenskyy or heading to Ukraine, he's gonna have to release a sex tape with him to distract from this one.

Simon wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:57 pm Broccers, earlier.

On holiday. Don't give a shit about cock grabbing

Managed to catch the news tho - Rishi has been doing a terrible job, his replacement I like. Good move.

The media might get their own way one day getting rid of Boz - wont be today tho or this week or month.

Broccers wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:50 pm The media might get their own way one day getting rid of Boz - wont be today tho or this week or month.

Blimey, an actual prediction from Broccers! Probably be proven wrong before the week is out…

Jobbo wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:24 pm

Broccers wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:50 pm The media might get their own way one day getting rid of Boz - wont be today tho or this week or month.

Blimey, an actual prediction from Broccers! Probably be proven wrong before the week is out…

Remind me when I'm right

Sunak is a smart man, perfect excuse to get out before the recession hit

He can't survive.

I listened to Times Radio on the journey to work today. Interviews with Nadhim Zahawi, then William Hague, Michael Portillo and a few others. It was amazing how people talked as if he was already leaving. Other than Zahawi, who seems to have made a bit of a misstep taking the job of chancellor. Shortest ever tenure as chancellor?

My current prediction is Boris to resign later today.

Jobbo wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:46 am
My current prediction is Boris to resign later today.

Brave

PMQs will be fun.