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Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:07 pm
by Rich B
To give them their dues - it says they’ve nearly fulfilled the contract too supplying 67million pieces of equipment!
That’s not how government contracts are supposed to work - surely they should be going back for more money having found the initial costing was wrong or something!?
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:11 pm
by Nefarious
Rich has already spoken. Unless you can *prove* a link to Dominic Raab's actual mum, it's all *completely fine*, nothing to see here.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:16 pm
by Rich B
Nefarious wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:11 pm
Rich has already spoken. Unless you can *prove* a link to Dominic Raab's actual mum, it's all *completely fine*, nothing to see here.
You are correct in that this one also doesn’t fit your little wanky sensationalist list!
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:20 pm
by Jobbo
Sorry, awarding a contract for protective equipment for hospitals worth £108m to a tiny pest control company doesn't ring alarm bells? FFS, Rich
Fortunately, it rang enough bells with enough people that it's being challenged in court. The lockdown was absolutely not a cronies' charter for mates of the government to milk nepotistic opportunities without scrutiny.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:21 pm
by Nefarious
Rich B wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:16 pm
Nefarious wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:11 pm
Rich has already spoken. Unless you can *prove* a link to Dominic Raab's actual mum, it's all *completely fine*, nothing to see here.
You are correct in that this one also doesn’t fit your little wanky sensationalist list!
The "wanky sensationalist list" of contracts awarded without tender - what you asked for
.
Not in the mood for your petty shite today. We can wait for the PAC report on this one.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:23 pm
by Rich B
Jobbo wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:20 pm
Sorry, awarding a contract for protective equipment for hospitals worth £108m to a tiny pest control company doesn't ring alarm bells? FFS, Rich
Massive alarm bells. It’s clearly wrong.
Unfortunately Nef is conveniently forgetting what he originally posted and now trying to twist it to make it seem like I have claimed any of the cases are ok.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:24 pm
by Rich B
Nefarious wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:21 pm
Rich B wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:16 pm
Nefarious wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:11 pm
Rich has already spoken. Unless you can *prove* a link to Dominic Raab's actual mum, it's all *completely fine*, nothing to see here.
You are correct in that this one also doesn’t fit your little wanky sensationalist list!
The "wanky sensationalist list" of contracts awarded without tender - what you asked for
.
Not in the mood for your petty shite today. We can wait for the PAC report on this one.
I’ll correct you again if you like? You still don’t seem to remember what you actually said!
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:28 pm
by Rich B
Rich B wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:20 pm
Nefarious wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:55 pm
Rich B wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:59 pm
You keep changing what you think you said - it’s this:
“Why are the government awarding multi-million contracts without tender to companies their own members are shareholders in?”
so theres 3 points to it:
Why are the government awarding:
- multi-million contracts
- without tender
- to companies their own members are shareholders in?
Which ones fit this? Randox has a consultant that is an MP?
Youre chasing a misunderstanding - you asked me for a list of contracts awarded without tender, which is what I gave.
Re. The original statement, see the above concession to the words "high value"
Just scroll up - you’re not even quoting yourself correctly!
“No, I stated in my original post that I have an issue with the widespread practice of
dishing out high value contracts to companies with close connections to government without proper tender, of which this is a prime example.
This does seem a slightly strange, nit-picky point (and one largely irrelevant to the issue of awarding a high-value, privicy invading
contract to close associates of the current cabinet) to make a stand over.”
I specifically asked for contracts awarded in that way, meaning your examples should be all of these:
- multi-million pound contracts (Faculty
)
- non-tendered (Faculty
)
- awarded to government members Interest companies (Faculty
)
You then posted a big long impressive list of Other contracts that also don’t fit this Description either (though I invited criticism of one of them if you wanted).
just to remind you. You seem to keep on forgetting one of the points in your statement!
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:51 pm
by Jobbo
Rich B wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:24 pm
Nefarious wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:21 pm
Rich B wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:16 pm
You are correct in that this one also doesn’t fit your little wanky sensationalist list!
The "wanky sensationalist list" of contracts awarded without tender - what you asked for
.
Not in the mood for your petty shite today. We can wait for the PAC report on this one.
I’ll correct you again if you like? You still don’t seem to remember what you actually said!
The article Nef linked to referred to contracts to Faculty worth at least £1.6m. That's more than a million, so multi-million is right.
Good of you to miss the entire point he made so spectacularly anyway
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:05 pm
by Rich B
Jobbo wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:51 pm
Rich B wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:24 pm
Nefarious wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:21 pm
The "wanky sensationalist list" of contracts awarded without tender - what you asked for
.
Not in the mood for your petty shite today. We can wait for the PAC report on this one.
I’ll correct you again if you like? You still don’t seem to remember what you actually said!
The article Nef linked to referred to contracts to Faculty worth at least £1.6m. That's more than a million, so multi-million is right.
Good of you to miss the entire point he made so spectacularly anyway
Yes, 9 separate contracts worth £1.6m, and the article said the latest one of these contracts (£400k) being awarded without tender (so should we assume the others were awarded following a tender?)
”Multimillion pound contracts being awarded to companies with government board members” is not the same as ”one £400k contract was awarded to a company with a government member on the board.”
Of course, neither are acceptable without some scrutiny.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:00 pm
by V8Granite
Did they meet the targets given to them ?
Dave!
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:37 pm
by duncs500
V8Granite wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:00 pm
Did they meet the targets given to them ?
Dave!
A question like this has no place in a thread like this Dave!
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:45 pm
by PaulJ
Mito Man wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:48 am
So can people still try clothes on?
I need some new trainers and shoes, that’s one thing which I don’t like buying online as shoe sizes are brand specific and the fit is very personal.
With your skills demonstrated in the shed thread I have thought you'd hack a tree down and go into clog manufacture.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:52 pm
by revsRus
I’m pressing ahead with my nurburgring trip next week but obviously I have to go through France to get to Germany. I’m staying the first night with a friend in Brussels. What do you think the chances are of French border control in Folkestone telling me to fuck off if I don’t have somewhere firm to quarantine in once entering their country, considering I won’t even be getting out of the car, just passing through to Belgium?
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:12 pm
by Orange Cola
Passing through is fine isn’t it? You might need proof of destination though.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 7:09 pm
by Nefarious
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Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:11 pm
by dinny_g
Politicians acting in a self serving manner - it’s a non shocker really...
No matter what colour their coat, no matter how they go about doing it, they all do eventually...
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:35 am
by KiwiDave
Our clean slate stopped today. 24 days with 0 cases, now 2 from the UK allowed in to visit a family member who was dying. Contract tracing regime about to be tested to see if the country can still keep the virus out.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:14 am
by Jobbo
Orange Cola wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:13 pm
It’ll be interesting to see what the outcome of this is. Gov to discuss opening pubs on 22nd June instead of the 4th July to help prevent job losses in the sector, conversation happening on Tuesday.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52964669
Good old Government - this news item is just over a week old and the BBPA issued this yesterday because there has been no decision:
https://beerandpub.com/2020/06/15/beer- ... overnment/
I imagine the BBPA represents the smaller brewers and landlords rather than the big players, since they don't need an industry body to have lobbying power.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:26 am
by dinny_g
KiwiDave wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:35 am
Our clean slate stopped today. 24 days with 0 cases, now 2 from the UK allowed in to visit a family member who was dying. Contract tracing regime about to be tested to see if the country can still keep the virus out.
Read about that this morning - the system seemed to work though - they were quarantined, tested etc. they didn't get to see their father before he passed and only travelled to the funeral, alone in a private car - stayed with a single person who's now isolating etc
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