Coronavirus

[Explosive Newt]

We’ve got next to no coronavirus in ICU any more, maybe 2 covid admissions in the last 2 weeks (interestingly nothing care home residents), well down from the 1-2 a day we had in April.

I was interested to read a paper that came out in Science this week which looked at white blood cells from covid survivors - which seemed to avidly recognise various proteins and RNA from the virus. But the interesting thing was a fair proportion of cells from people who hadn’t been exposed to coro reacted to coronavirus proteins, suggesting various other viruses your immune system has been trained on might confer some kind of immunity.

[Carlos]

We’ve got next to no coronavirus in ICU any more, maybe 2 covid admissions in the last 2 weeks (interestingly nothing care home residents), well down from the 1-2 a day we had in April.

I was interested to read a paper that came out in Science this week which looked at white blood cells from covid survivors - which seemed to avidly recognise various proteins and RNA from the virus. But the interesting thing was a fair proportion of cells from people who hadn’t been exposed to coro reacted to coronavirus proteins, suggesting various other viruses your immune system has been trained on might confer some kind of immunity.

If that's the case is it fair to say the old/sick/weak are not just more likely to succumb to it but also more susceptible ?

[Explosive Newt]

I think we don’t really know what makes you susceptible but the old/infirm are more likely to have severe infections and produce higher viral load which is in turn more infectious.

[Orange Cola]

Our neighbours have pretty much ignored all the lock down advice from the Government. They've got a house full at the moment, cars parked on the street, no one outside.

I guess a decent amount of the UK is doing the same.

[McSwede]

Our neighbours have pretty much ignored all the lock down advice from the Government. They've got a house full at the moment, cars parked on the street, no one outside.

I guess a decent amount of the UK is doing the same.

I haven't noticed anything like that here. Some neighbours have had a couple of people in the gardens and that's all I've seen.

[duncs500]

We drove to the beach today (tut tut). Although we picked a beach that had limited pre-booked parking, is a massive beach, and with a less good forecast we figured it was fairly low risk.

It was fine, didn't go near anyone else and the weather held up nicely. Didn't see any social distancing issues TBH. We walked up and sat where it was quiet, but even in the busier bits near the car park there had to be 4m+ between groups. It's funny with beaches, it looked busy from a distance but when you got up close you realise the gaps between groups are much bigger than they appear.

[Rich B]

I’ve seen the same pattern for everywhere I’ve been recently, local country parks, bike parks, woods, etc; We go at 8:30/9am And it’s quiet and lovely, then at about 11/11:30 the hoards descend and we go home.

[V8Granite]

I’ve seen the same pattern for everywhere I’ve been recently, local country parks, bike parks, woods, etc; We go at 8:30/9am And it’s quiet and lovely, then at about 11/11:30 the hoards descend and we go home.

Similar here, we were going out with the boys before 07:30 but at 08:30 all the dog walkers appeared. So it was home for breakfast.

Dave!

[Marv]

Our neighbours have pretty much ignored all the lock down advice from the Government. They've got a house full at the moment, cars parked on the street, no one outside.

I guess a decent amount of the UK is doing the same.

Yep, our neighbours have completely ignored the lockdown from the start. They've had guests in their holiday home every week. Would love to report the cunts, but they'd know it would be us reporting them, as they're our only neighbours

[Orange Cola]

Our neighbours have pretty much ignored all the lock down advice from the Government. They've got a house full at the moment, cars parked on the street, no one outside.

I guess a decent amount of the UK is doing the same.

Yep, our neighbours have completely ignored the lockdown from the start. They've had guests in their holiday home every week. Would love to report the cunts, but they'd know it would be us reporting them, as they're our only neighbours

My mum is in a similar position, how do you report a nurse from the same place you work at for completely ignoring lockdown rules who’s also your neighbour? It couldn’t be anyone else reporting it either.

[Mito Man]

London’s going to be a nightmare as people return over the coming weeks. Most central roads have had a lane reduced either side to turn into cycle lanes, more speed limit reductions to 20, the stupid raised congestion charge, many roads completely blocked off. Knowing the scums behind it I doubt it will ever revert back to normal. You pretty much need a bike or you’re fucked, except bikes are pretty awkward so electric scooters are the way forward till enough idiots ride them and start mowing over people.

Tldr- road capacity reduced 50%, charges up 50%, speed limits cut 50%

[Carlos]

London’s going to be a nightmare as people return over the coming weeks. Most central roads have had a lane reduced either side to turn into cycle lanes, more speed limit reductions to 20, the stupid raised congestion charge, many roads completely blocked off. Knowing the scums behind it I doubt it will ever revert back to normal. You pretty much need a bike or you’re fucked, except bikes are pretty awkward so electric scooters are the way forward till enough idiots ride them and start mowing over people.

Tldr- road capacity reduced 50%, charges up 50%, speed limits cut 50%

I only go there a few times a year and in my experience driving in the current form doesn't work anyway. Unless you have a disability driving 5-10 miles per hour in stop start traffic is not efficient.

Herne Hill to the M4 which is 15 miles tops has taken as long as Chiswick to Cardiff (150 miles!) .

[Simon]

We went to see my folks today for the first time since March. Did it all properly, didn't even go through the house and sat in their back garden a distance away from them. It was sad but at the same time a relief.

[Mito Man]

London’s going to be a nightmare as people return over the coming weeks. Most central roads have had a lane reduced either side to turn into cycle lanes, more speed limit reductions to 20, the stupid raised congestion charge, many roads completely blocked off. Knowing the scums behind it I doubt it will ever revert back to normal. You pretty much need a bike or you’re fucked, except bikes are pretty awkward so electric scooters are the way forward till enough idiots ride them and start mowing over people.

Tldr- road capacity reduced 50%, charges up 50%, speed limits cut 50%

I only go there a few times a year and in my experience driving in the current form doesn't work anyway. Unless you have a disability driving 5-10 miles per hour in stop start traffic is not efficient.

Herne Hill to the M4 which is 15 miles tops has taken as long as Chiswick to Cardiff (150 miles!) .

With what they’ve done you won’t be able to use any form of transport on the road once things get busier, be it bus, car, or taxi.

[KiwiDave]

New Zealand just hit 0 cases. Everything except borders back to normal as of midnight tonight.

Here starts the watch and see whether that's a permanent status or if there's stuff lurking in the shadows...

Bit of a relief to be honest, though the job losses are already hitting hard.

[Orange Cola]

New Zealand just hit 0 cases. Everything except borders back to normal as of midnight tonight.

Here starts the watch and see whether that's a permanent status or if there's stuff lurking in the shadows...

Bit of a relief to be honest, though the job losses are already hitting hard.

It’ll be interesting to see how hard it hits the job market as NZ handled it very differently to the UK. We’re already talking about he possibility of up to 40% of pubs not re-opening which is circa 400,000* jobs.

*Rough calculation based on yesterday’s Country File reporting over 1 million workers in that sector.

[Ascender]

We’ve got next to no coronavirus in ICU any more, maybe 2 covid admissions in the last 2 weeks (interestingly nothing care home residents), well down from the 1-2 a day we had in April.

That's great news, very encouraging.

[dinny_g]

New Zealand just hit 0 cases. Everything except borders back to normal as of midnight tonight.

Here starts the watch and see whether that's a permanent status or if there's stuff lurking in the shadows...

Bit of a relief to be honest, though the job losses are already hitting hard.

Super Rugby having full stadiums in a few weeks will be a good litmus test - see how infection rates fare...

[drcarlos]

New Zealand just hit 0 cases. Everything except borders back to normal as of midnight tonight.

Here starts the watch and see whether that's a permanent status or if there's stuff lurking in the shadows...

Bit of a relief to be honest, though the job losses are already hitting hard.

This is likely to be an interesting case but more in isolation. NZ locked down so early with so few cases it could that there has been very little herd immunity gained and the country maybe in need of a vaccination programme before they can re-open borders and join the rest of the world. It is good to hear that life internally can return to normality though.
They'll be some doctorates written on each countries handling and how it worked after this for sure.

[dinny_g]

Interesting take on recent events from the Guardian...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -overnight