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mik wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:15 pm Doesn’t sound good - and JayEmm is clearly shaken.

So he followed this one up.
There is a *lot* of talking about the before and afters, but he does show some of the footage at 9:40, then a bit more at 10:50 if you're just interested in the science of the accident.

Kickdown on the crest, wheels not quite straight, less traction at the front due to the fronts 'lifted' just over the crest - leading to a tank slapper?

Just watching that. I don't think that would've happened in a manuel.

This is something I dislike with automatics and it’s caught me out on icy mornings where the car unnecessarily changes down on gentle acceleration on a slow bend and kicks the arse out a bit.

Blimey. Pretty horrific outcome for something that looked pretty low-key too - trees are dangerous.

I don’t understand how that could happen with modern stability systems. I can also see how it would be an immense concern to Jayemm, even though he hasn’t been driving and had told the guy not to be silly. But the slide was archetypal Mustang ‘watch this’ without, apparently, even trying.

Jobbo wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 8:23 pm I don’t understand how that could happen with modern stability systems. I can also see how it would be an immense concern to Jayemm, even though he hasn’t been driving and had told the guy not to be silly. But the slide was archetypal Mustang ‘watch this’ without, apparently, even trying.

How on earth did that happen at that speed unless the stability systems were all switched off? Or have I just forgotten what RWD BMWs and older stability systems are like compared to the all singing all dancing ones we have on the xdrive cars now?

Talk about terrible luck though to then hit a tree and have those horrendous injuries as a result.

Ascender wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 9:59 am
How on earth did that happen at that speed unless the stability systems were all switched off? Or have I just forgotten what RWD BMWs and older stability systems are like compared to the all singing all dancing ones we have on the xdrive cars now?

I was thinking the same - and it's a late 2020 car, so not exactly "old school" stability controls. I don't see any brake lights, so no indication that he's panicked and jumped on the anchors when it initially stepped out.

All a very unfortunate series of events.

I guess fancy heavy modern ones don’t slide often, but when you do it snaps pretty quickly. I mean, I’m an older one you’re pretty much always expecting a little slip from the back on a wet bend and ready for it.

Strange that the injuries were so bad from a relatively low speed incident. Good that the car is strong, bad that it’s so heavy which caused a harder hit. One of those things, unless you could recreate the crash exactly with another car it’s hard to say if the car did well at saving his life, or did badly at throwing 2tons off the road into a tree.

I find the physics of crashes absolutely fascinating, probably should have gone down that career path tbh

Jumping on the brakes rather than trying to catch it might have given a better result.

M3 Touring at Goodwood FOS had a similar but minor accident this weekend. I’m guessing everything turned off though.

I'd expect high end summer tyres (I'm sure it wouldn't have been on all-seasons but the youtube transcript tool no longer lets you see the whole transcript at once so I can't recheck) on a cold damp uneven road were at least part of it, but it's still not what you'd expect to happen.

Just sounds like a series of extremely unfortunate coincidences - cold tyres, wet road, gearbox deciding it'd be more efficient a gear lower, touch of boost, bad camber, etc.

Sometimes, it's just a case of 'well....bugger'.

Think he mentioned that emergency services (or crash investigator types he spoke to seperately) had a look and basically said that what happened is one of those edge cases where if the tree had been broader, it wouldn't have intruded in so much and done so much damage etc (narrower = more force in a smaller area, more encroachment) so it really does just sound like just the absolute shittest of luck all round.

50p says the anti-hero button was turned off, as that accident appeared to make no sense. I just don't believe the gearbox going down one or two would overwhelm the ESP.

tim wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 12:43 pm 50p says the anti-hero button was turned off, as that accident appeared to make no sense. I just don't believe the gearbox going down one or two would overwhelm the ESP.

If there's no adhesion from the tyres, all the stability aids in the world ain't going to save you.

Haven’t really watched the video but was it on run flats? Was it on sports mode? I’d presume you want it in sports to open the valves for a drive noise clips.
I’ve remembered back to many years ago somewhere in Dorset with the X5 - I purposefully floored it over a crest to get air. The electronics did not like it one bit and for some reason it braked on one side of the car and tried to throw me off the road.

But it looked like he was driving really slowly and JayEmm was at pains to both explain it and demonstrate it with the other footage. So I don't think he'd have had a "watch this" moment... so he was just really, really unlucky.

I guess the M3 Touring CS at Goodwood was some over-exuberance in 2WD with all stability systems off.

Bit overlong as these videos usually are, but the cars are stunning

More Stippler at the Le Mans Classic. The unstable braking The wheelspin The engine noise

630bhp Mk3 MR2. Sounds lovely and goes rather well

Well that seems pretty bloomin' well sorted
I'll have to look through the other vifs on the channel now