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Swervin_Mervin wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 3:28 pm

dinny_g wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 1:25 pm

Swervin_Mervin wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 12:51 pm

The British and the Yanks. Wooo! Go us!

Judea was there before Britain or America...

In relevant recent history they lived together. Most of the Middle East had no borders 'til we carved it up and told everyone who could live where. See also India and Pakistan.

When I first went to Pakistan I still remember jokingly asking if the Jets, Tanks and Howitzers we're all pointing at Delhi and he gave me a very serious look and said yes

These issues in that part of the world will NEVER be fixed with diplomacy.

Dave!

IanF wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 10:55 pm

Mito Man wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 9:54 pm

Rich B wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 8:44 pm they were pretty slow agreeing to join ww2 as well, but we’re the problem.

Suez Crisis. Anyway there’s no special relationship. They need to stop shouting that nonsense every day.

Depends what you mean.. I fly with people who flew aircraft that only US and UK armed forces saw, we have cross training that supports and improves both our armed forces lethality. Donald Trump is POTUS for one term only (hopefully) and we have built a relationship over decades of common interest.. a 4 year set back is not sufficient imho from what people have sacrificed to achieve. The USA is not one person and I hope that will be apparent sooner rather than later.

Sorry Ian, I disagree. I saw a good quote yesterday. It said 'Trump is a mirror, not a lighthouse'. If you think Trump and MAGA and everything that surrounds them will go away when he dies then you are very much mistaken.

dinny_g wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 1:50 pm

ZedLeg wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 1:45 pm Israel is a new country built on stolen land.

And therein, lies the reason there will never be peace...

Is what I said untrue?

Wanna know what comes after Trump? Hard right Christian nationalism.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/ ... n-rhetoric

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/19/poli ... ationalism

Which is arguably even more terrifying. Trump is cruel, narcissistic, vengeful and capricious, but he is also largely incompetent. What comes after will be just a cruel and vengeful, but will be organised and efficient. And backed by the determination and fervour of religious zealotry.

ZedLeg wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 4:10 pm

dinny_g wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 1:50 pm

ZedLeg wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 1:45 pm Israel is a new country built on stolen land.

And therein, lies the reason there will never be peace...

Is what I said untrue?

I guess it depends on your timeframe - is it stealing to take back something that was stolen from you ??

Bottom line is Hamas won't stop until the Jews pack up their tents and leave... again.. and that just isn't happening this time.

Interesting that you both (eta Si & nef)think Republicans will win the next Presidential election.. certainly something to consider, and I guess we will find out in due time

Well if the US goes Democrat next cycle and we go Labour/Green coalition you can expect things to get even worse

I don't think there will be another Presidential election in the form we know it.

If the mid-terms can't be sewn up with dirty tricks (excluding women, ethnic minorities, blue states or whatever) Trump will come up with some flimsy excuse to cancel them (noises already being made about emergency powers to combat Chinese interference). There will be uproar, but ultimately nothing will stop it.

Whether they just outright cancel future elections, or only run them under Donnie's special rules, I don't know, but one thing is for certain - power will only be prized from their cold, dead hands, especially now they've all had the toddler sugar-rush of playing with the big boom boom toys.

dinny_g wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 5:00 pm

ZedLeg wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 4:10 pm

dinny_g wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 1:50 pm

And therein, lies the reason there will never be peace...

Is what I said untrue?

I guess it depends on your timeframe - is it stealing to take back something that was stolen from you ??

Bottom line is Hamas won't stop until the Jews pack up their tents and leave... again.. and that just isn't happening this time.

You’re conflating the idea of a right to a historic/ancestral home with someone killing you and stealing your house.

Oh I see your confusion…

On October 7th, Hamas only did the “killing you” part, they didn’t do the stealing your house part.

Hope that clears that up for you

Operation Distract from the Epstein files making excellent progress.

So it looks like the Iranian ship hit with a torpedo they’re using in their sizzle reel was unarmed and on an Indian navy exercise that the US had been invited to in Sri Lankan waters. Sri Lanka has let another ship dock on their shore to protect them.

Another war crime to add to the pile.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c747vezn7zwo