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Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:58 am
by ste
NotoriousREV wrote: Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:36 pm
If you think it looks good, it’s a good looking bike, I guess?
Yes and no.
I mean, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, always. Yet people are paid loads of money to design stuff so that it looks good. They don't get employed and paid if they say "well in my opinion it looks geeat so fuck off".
There are accepted aesthetic conventions, which are in a constant state of change due to this weird notion of fashion. Yet there are also design principles that underpin aestehtic understanding which remain constant.
So sure, if you like it, you think it's good looking. But widely accepted as good looking? That's a different thing.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:44 am
by NotoriousREV
ste wrote: Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:58 am
NotoriousREV wrote: Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:36 pm
If you think it looks good, it’s a good looking bike, I guess?
Yes and no.
I mean, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, always. Yet people are paid loads of money to design stuff so that it looks good. They don't get employed and paid if they say "well in my opinion it looks geeat so fuck off".
There are accepted aesthetic conventions, which are in a constant state of change due to this weird notion of fashion. Yet there are also design principles that underpin aestehtic understanding which remain constant.
So sure, if you like it, you think it's good looking. But widely accepted as good looking? That's a different thing.
Chris Bangle called and said you're full of shit
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:58 am
by ste
That kinda backs up what I'm saying. Remember when Bangle's BMWs first came out? Gopping. Look at those same cars now and we accept the design language as our understanding of the design has evolved. Plus all along his stuff was underpinned by solid design principles.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:12 pm
by Rich B
Yep, I thought the E60 was a mess when it first came out, it didn’t take long to change my mind and I think it’s aged really well.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:14 pm
by JLv3.0
It was the first Bangle 7-series that did it for me.
Hated it.
Hated it.
Hated it.
Hated it.
Kept on looking at them.....
Ended up loving it.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:18 pm
by NotoriousREV
Bangle's work was the epitome of "it looks great to me, so fuck off!" It set new aesthetic conventions.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:24 pm
by Rich B
My old work used to share a car park with the fat duck in bray, Heston Blumenthal had one of the very early blue M5s. I was parked opposite it sat in my car on a phone call for 15 minutes staring at it, by the end of the call I really liked E60s.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:28 pm
by JLv3.0
NotoriousREV wrote: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:18 pm
Bangle's work was the epitome of "it looks great to me, so fuck off!" It set new aesthetic conventions.
I think he's a genius. The previous 7-series was the definition of dull.
I also liked the Fiat Coupe but that's a whole new thread
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:38 pm
by tim
MOTORBIKES PEOPLE!
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:55 pm
by NotoriousREV
Everyone who's seen my KTM in person says it looks awesome.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:57 pm
by Mito Man
JLv3.0 wrote: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:14 pm
It was the first Bangle 7-series that did it for me.
Hated it.
Hated it.
Hated it.
Hated it.
Kept on looking at them.....
Ended up loving it.
I tried this with an ex once but never got to the loving part.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:01 pm
by Rich B
Mito Man wrote: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:57 pm
JLv3.0 wrote: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:14 pm
It was the first Bangle 7-series that did it for me.
Hated it.
Hated it.
Hated it.
Hated it.
Kept on looking at them.....
Ended up loving it.
I tried this with an ex once but never got to the loving part.
and that’s why you have two hands.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:01 pm
by JLv3.0
Damn really? One hand not enough?
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:06 pm
by mik
NotoriousREV wrote: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:55 pm
Everyone who's seen my KTM in person says it looks awesome.
Everyone? You stop and ask them all
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:55 pm
by NotoriousREV
mik wrote: Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:06 pm
NotoriousREV wrote: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:55 pm
Everyone who's seen my KTM in person says it looks awesome.
Everyone? You stop and ask them all
Of course! Wouldn't you?
When I was in Matlock Bath on Saturday, there was a crowd round it when I got back from lunch.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:01 pm
by speedingfine
NotoriousREV wrote: Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:55 pm
mik wrote: Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:06 pm
NotoriousREV wrote: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:55 pm
Everyone who's seen my KTM in person says it looks awesome.
Everyone? You stop and ask them all
Of course! Wouldn't you?
When I was in Matlock Bath on Saturday, there was a crowd round it when I got back from lunch.
Had it fallen over?
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:55 pm
by NotoriousREV
No, but it was parked illegally.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:00 pm
by Rich B
I was in Matlock Bath last week - no KTMs of any note though.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:08 pm
by NotoriousREV
Rich B wrote: Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:00 pm
I was in Matlock Bath last week - no KTMs of any note though.
Sounds rubbish.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:12 pm
by Rich B
NotoriousREV wrote: Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:08 pm
Rich B wrote: Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:00 pm
I was in Matlock Bath last week - no KTMs of any note though.
Sounds rubbish.
definitely, I didn’t bother stopping. As I always say - no KTM, no stopping.
