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They’ve played it well, but saying he will likely win next year if the Gaza deal lasts.. he won’t want to rubbish it too much (probably) if he’s set to get it

It won’t last. The cynic in me says Israel need relief from the, quite justified , international condemnation and want to stop short of incurring sanctions

And the Palestinians need to re-group, militarily, before their next wave of attacks because… well “River to the Sea” etc.

I give it a fortnight

DaveE wrote: Fri Oct 10, 2025 12:04 pm

Rich B wrote: Fri Oct 10, 2025 12:00 pm it’s bad isn’t it, that you almost in a way don’t want them to end the war in Gaza because Trump has been part of the solution…. i said almost!

I wouldn't go that far, but I do agree that on Gaza, he does deserve credit (if things do improve there)

The problem with Trump and the Nobel Prize IMO is that Gaza is the only good thing he's done and everything else has been really bad (not even neutral)

While he's taking all the credit, there are plenty of others that should be recognised.

dinny_g wrote: Fri Oct 10, 2025 4:54 pm It won’t last. The cynic in me says Israel need relief from the, quite justified , international condemnation and want to stop short of incurring sanctions

And the Palestinians need to re-group, militarily, before their next wave of attacks because… well “River to the Sea” etc.

I give it a fortnight

I agree that it won’t last, but it will take Palestine many years to regroup militarily. Effectively, you have an entire young population that hates their neighbours and has been radicalised even further. And that’s before you get to both sides’ frantic religious masturbation.

In the meantime, the Western protestors can start dusting off their climate-change placards again and buy some new cans of “Sticks Like Shit” for next Saturday.

The nobel committee were asked about this. Instead of saying "he wasn't nominated in time", they said (and I'm paraphrasing here - but not by much) "the committee works in an office surrounded by portraits of former laureates; people who have shown real courage and integrity. We base our decision on the work and will of Alfred Nobel"

For the slow witted, they basically flat out stated that they don't believe Trump has the values to be granted such an important honour.

DaveE wrote: Fri Oct 10, 2025 12:04 pm

Rich B wrote: Fri Oct 10, 2025 12:00 pm it’s bad isn’t it, that you almost in a way don’t want them to end the war in Gaza because Trump has been part of the solution…. i said almost!

I wouldn't go that far, but I do agree that on Gaza, he does deserve credit (if things do improve there)

The problem with Trump and the Nobel Prize IMO is that Gaza is the only good thing he's done and everything else has been really bad (not even neutral)

Apparently he did help bring in place the peace deal between Armenia and Azerbaijan (or Albania and Aberbyjan, as he called it) but yeah considering Trumps administration continues to supply Israel with military intelligence, armaments and money while it annihilates Gaza and the West Bank, I'm not sure aiding a cease fire makes up for this, among all the other shitty things he's done like threatening to invade Canada, Greenland and sending innocent people to the mega jail in El Salvador, starting to build a wall between the USA and Mexico, Storming of Capitol Hill, etc...

From an interview I saw with someone from the Nobel institute, when asked about Trump, they don't seem ignorant to the above, but they did say that he could be eligible to receive the prize next year

Marv wrote: Fri Oct 10, 2025 8:38 pm

DaveE wrote: Fri Oct 10, 2025 12:04 pm

Rich B wrote: Fri Oct 10, 2025 12:00 pm it’s bad isn’t it, that you almost in a way don’t want them to end the war in Gaza because Trump has been part of the solution…. i said almost!

I wouldn't go that far, but I do agree that on Gaza, he does deserve credit (if things do improve there)

The problem with Trump and the Nobel Prize IMO is that Gaza is the only good thing he's done and everything else has been really bad (not even neutral)

Apparently he did help bring in place the peace deal between Armenia and Azerbaijan (or Albania and Aberbyjan, as he called it) but yeah considering Trumps administration continues to supply Israel with military intelligence, armaments and money while it annihilates Gaza and the West Bank, I'm not sure aiding a cease fire makes up for this, among all the other shitty things he's done like threatening to invade Canada, Greenland and sending innocent people to the mega jail in El Salvador, starting to build a wall between the USA and Mexico, Storming of Capitol Hill, etc...

And renaming his Department of Defense to the Department of War. Nothing like setting your stall out.

Yeah, you don't give the arsonist an award for calling the fire brigade once in a while.

You'd genuinely have to be alarmingly dense to think otherwise.

Noel and Liam didn’t tour when Biden was in power, just saying.

MikeHunt wrote: Fri Oct 10, 2025 10:48 pm Noel and Liam didn’t tour when Biden was in power, just saying.

Yeah, well, they couldn't get away with being out and out racists on twitter when Biden was in power and a racist didn't own twitter



That was in July.

July this year.

Nothing suspicious here - move along.

Ah, lol, just posted the same in the crypto thread.

Trump has openly bragged about how much money his friends made shorting stock during the previous tariff announcements....so we all know how this'll go.

Once again, still amazed at how the American's are just sitting and letting this happen.