Harry’s Garage

[mik]

Those slow-moving air brake elements don't look like they add much more than visual drama

[RobYob]

Overall a gorgeous thing, but some of those details around the headlights (quasi winglets?) and the tailpipes look extrememly silly.

[ZedLeg]

Those wheels are much better than the ones on the coupe everyone’s been testing.

[240PP]

I’m good with both sets of wheels. I think the want for the car is maybe making me overlook a few details though.

[integrale_evo]

I like the wheels and like the front end.

Exhausts look cheap and tacky, they look like plastic bumper finishers despite being expensive titanium, and the black panels on the deck lid look like they’re mainly there to disguise some pretty poor panel gaps and as said, make no sense to the overall design language.

I know you don’t buy cars like that for their luggage capacity, but I did lol when he went round the back and opens the teeny tiniest boot lid. It’s probably not small compared to similar, but I don’t know, something about it looked very silly and amused me.

[nuttinnew]

I really don't think electricity is the issue here. It's the fact that Porsche haven't really used it the right way (to improve efficiency overall) and it's not obvious why.

Well Porsche do have a reputation for jumping into new tech. First variable geometry turbos on a petrol engine, that tech now superseded by the E-tubs.

But I agreed sticking the fanciest of new tech on the 3.6 GTS is odd. They could have put it on a lower capacity engine and delivered great performance with better economy or a bigger engine/high boost model for headline performance.

Maybe just a public beta for the E-tubs before sticking it on that horrible four cylinder donk.

1700kg too Porsche have finally caught up to the R35 GTR!

Reasons behind it were mentioned ages back, maybe when it was first announced or maybe in other vids (in the decent thread?). IIrc it was to do with legislation (might be Euro 7, might be proposed, I can't remember) that was something like not running rich, using the electric motors to get the engine out of those scenarios. Lambda 1? It feels like it was last gen ago when I saw about it, was there a concept/show car that previewed it?

[Jobbo]

The Morgan one was a bit longer than usual so I didn't watch it until last night. A nice format with the road trip and the usual review in short form on the B4437.

It almost got me putting my name down for one to come in about 2029. Really only the price was offputting; I know Harry thinks they're great value but compared to a Caterham (more relevant than a Dodici Cilindri paint job) they still seem expensive. It's also heavier than my MX5 despite the low weight being mentioned by Harry many times. Still a lovely looking thing, and a bit special.

[mik]

Excellent video with excellent insights. I like him - his stuff is usually good (although I don't really understand why (or even how) he makes every single point he makes sound like a critically emphasised very important point).

[nuttinnew]

I don't think I'd noticed that before, but now...
That wasn't the vid I was thinking of because not eu It'll pop up again randomly, like that one did.

[scotta]

The Morgan one was a bit longer than usual so I didn't watch it until last night. A nice format with the road trip and the usual review in short form on the B4437.

It almost got me putting my name down for one to come in about 2029. Really only the price was offputting; I know Harry thinks they're great value but compared to a Caterham (more relevant than a Dodici Cilindri paint job) they still seem expensive. It's also heavier than my MX5 despite the low weight being mentioned by Harry many times. Still a lovely looking thing, and a bit special.

Totally agree on the pricing. Its the engine out of my 128 in the same tune...at twice the price. In my head the morgan should be a £40-50k car not an £80k one with options (Ive been on the configurator)

ETA - The sound system sounds very interesting though. Id like to see more detail on how sennheiser are doing that.

Further ETA - https://www.sennheiser.com/en-gb/mobili ... rgan-motor need to have a proper read on that.

[scotta]

Morgan have a new car announcement in about 5 mins

https://morgan-motor.com/

Presume there will be a harrys garage vid drop around the same time on it.

[nuttinnew]

(Ive been on the configurator)

ETA - The sound system sounds very interesting though. Id like to see more detail on how sennheiser are doing that.

Further ETA - https://www.sennheiser.com/en-gb/mobili ... rgan-motor need to have a proper read on that.

That's addictive and frustrating, how do you decide upon a colour?

Will read that, ta

[scotta]

(Ive been on the configurator)

ETA - The sound system sounds very interesting though. Id like to see more detail on how sennheiser are doing that.

Further ETA - https://www.sennheiser.com/en-gb/mobili ... rgan-motor need to have a proper read on that.

That's addictive and frustrating, how do you decide upon a colour?

Will read that, ta

The mid dark grey with orange seats and the black wheels - HTH.

[Jobbo]

Morgan have a new car announcement in about 5 mins

https://morgan-motor.com/

Presume there will be a harrys garage vid drop around the same time on it.

Morgan have a bit of a problem with new car introductions - if they don't look the same as before, people complain (Aero 8) but if they do, people don't notice. I had no idea they weren't still using ash frames in the Plus 4.

ETA: they do still use ash frames - it is just the chassis underneath which has become aluminium in the Plus 4.

[mik]

Morgan have a bit of a problem with new car introductions - if they don't look the same as before, people complain (Aero 8) but if they do, people don't notice.

True. I think the front end changes look pretty good (although they all look a bit clumsy when you compare them to some of the Wiesmann models), but the C-pillar of the hard-top made me think of the 2+2 E-type. Which isn't a good thing.

[Mito Man]

I think it's pretty bad overall, the front looks good until you get to the windscreen, then it doesn't work

[integrale_evo]

That looks very odd.

Have they forgotten to fit the centre-cap in the front wheel?

[V8Granite]

I really like it, the manual better arrive quickly though incase I am ever in a position to buy one.

Dave!

[nuttinnew]

The mid dark grey with orange seats and the black wheels - HTH.

and now?

[nuttinnew]

A cheeky choice of colour, eh JLR?