OV9

Gordon Murray only knows how to design one kind of car* but in his defence, he is pretty good at it.

*yes I know that's not true, go fuck your hat.

Comments on that evo post from Peter Stevens are interesting.

One recognising that Murray oversaw the project, but didn’t do the design work.

One querying who owns the IP to the original F1 design - either Ron Denis, or him…..

I'm surprised you muppets like that. Interior's minimalism has been ruined, and the lights are just silly:

I wasn’t going to put down a deposit…. But now I have. Just to annoy Chris.

mik wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 9:35 pm I’m usually not big on ModTro designs, and that is VERY reminiscent of the original….

But.

I think it looks great

What Rich and Mik said. That works. And if you’re going to make a restomod, do it from the Daddy.

Jobbo wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 11:11 pm

mik wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 9:35 pm I’m usually not big on ModTro designs, and that is VERY reminiscent of the original….

But.

I think it looks great

What Rich and Mik said. That works. And if you’re going to make a restomod, do it from the Daddy.

I was honestly waiting for Jobbo to agree with me and now I'm just shocked and disappointed. Correctness licence revoked

That steering wheel looks like the kind of thing a kid with an earwig moustache would fit to his Saxo.

speedingfine wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 11:07 pm Interior's minimalism has been ruined, and the lights are just silly

Ok Chris, I do agree that the front lights lose something compared to the original and the interior isn’t as nice as the F1. Overall though, the exterior looks great to me. The proportions are right; it’s not a cartoon version as some restomods can be, it’s pretty much a direct copy and looks stunning.

It still annoys me that all the fancy expensive resto mods fit weird ‘modern’ lights which don’t suit the rest of the car.

Ok, the F1 rear lights were just the most generic ones around plucked from the Hella parts bin, but they worked and looked fine, it doesn’t need weird grilled led things.

It’s not just this, I hate most of the ones retropower and singer fit to the front too. Shame there’s no way to have actual modern brightness and sharpness in a completely traditional looking housing.

IanF wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 1:44 pm

I actually drove past this car on the Dartford bridge on the way down to the Goodwood Revival in 2009. I remember commenting to my friend how wonderful it looked. I didn't see it when I was at the Revival though. Didn't realise it's a one off.

I've wondered what Bentley it was ever since, so you've solved a 16 year mystery for me, thanks

On the Gordon Murray topic I never really got down to who designed it. In my mind it’s something like Murray had an overall concept of a 3 seat mid engine layout and did the engineering for it but the actual styling was Peter Stevens. Which is perhaps why the T50 looks as awkward as it does, maybe Murray didn’t want to just rip off the design of another person. Looking at the homage now you can see what it should have looked like if perhaps Stevens was on board with the team.

Wonder how much this will go for?

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/199 ... thill-scrs

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/auction/18976125

Anyone care to bid on this V12 Vantage?

A far cry from that Vantage but I bet there are some parts shared. Saw this at the weekend browsing Carandclassic and thought it was rather nice, if a bit stupid:

https://www.carandclassic.com/make-an-o ... ine-4ByJEn

Jobbo wrote: Tue Aug 26, 2025 9:09 am Saw this at the weekend browsing Carandclassic and thought it was rather nice, if a bit stupid:

Shame they opted for a 4-pot.

mik wrote: Tue Aug 26, 2025 9:25 am

Jobbo wrote: Tue Aug 26, 2025 9:09 am Saw this at the weekend browsing Carandclassic and thought it was rather nice, if a bit stupid:

Shame they opted for a 4-pot.

Good point - I was distracted by the interior so didn't even check. Still, it had a balancer shaft didn't it? And while it's not a funeral car I doubt it has ever exceeded 1200rpm.

Jobbo wrote: Tue Aug 26, 2025 10:00 am I doubt it has ever exceeded 1200rpm.

That is glorious.

I'd love it just to drop the kids to the pub

That is just ugly with an extra side of "eeeew". Also, sports a look of permanent surprise.

I wouldn’t choose a flowery design for my singer 911, but as a showcase of skill and a piece of artwork that is stunning