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Broccers wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:46 am

unzippy wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:40 am How does it compare to what we had before?

I think you are missing the point of Brexit dude

What is the point?

DeskJockey wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:48 am

Broccers wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:46 am

unzippy wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:40 am How does it compare to what we had before?

I think you are missing the point of Brexit dude

What is the point?

The future. Lots of could. maybe, mights around in the negative. A forward thinker can maybe see the EU model fail and we will be well out of it. Until it does tho there is no proof, as there is none leaving will be a disaster

Nothing says forward thinking like closing our borders to our closest trading partners

Broccers wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:59 am

DeskJockey wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:48 am

Broccers wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:46 am

I think you are missing the point of Brexit dude

What is the point?

The future. Lots of could. maybe, mights around in the negative. A forward thinker can maybe see the EU model fail and we will be well out of it. Until it does tho there is no proof, as there is none leaving will be a disaster

Need to do better than that.

ZedLeg wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:26 am Nothing says forward thinking like closing our borders to our closest trading partners

You having 2nd thoughts about Scottish Independence then?

Just to be clear - we aren't closing our doors. Do you really think that, even without an FTA, trade will simply cease overnight? It won't. It will likely get more expensive, and in some products a lot more expensive, but that doesn't mean it will cease. It doesn't mean it wil stay that way forever either. And it also means that some extra-EU trade will get cheaper.

I was never for building a border wall and cutting off access

I know I was being hyperbolic, I really see Brexit as a regressive step though. We should be aiming for more relaxed borders for trade and movement not the other way.

Whereas I think we will be aim to aim for the latter more, outside the EU. One aspect of not being in the EU is that it allows us to open up more to the ROW. It also allows us to remove ourselves from EU squabbles that we want no part in fighting - see the previously mentioned EU/US aviation state subsidies war, and its effect on tarriffs etc. I was originally only really pro exit from the EU itself, and would have been happy to remain part of the trading bloc as per other nations, retaining FOM etc. But over the last 6mo or so I've started to lean more to the idea that being completely out isn't such a bad thing on so many levels, especially in terms of the race to green up and implement more sustainable practices.

How we've potentially got there though has been awful, and reflects on all parties badly, particulary ourselves.

I guess we'll wait and see, I'd hate to see us slide more towards the jingoistic isolationism that typified a lot of the campaign talk at the time.

Agreed on the last part.

Well put Mervin...

Reckon a deal is about to be done. Banks shares went up sharply instead of through the floor.

So we left the EU.

Merry Christmas lefties

Broccers wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:30 am So we left the EU.

Merry Christmas lefties

Yes, congratulations on being the first country in the world to impose sanctions on itself. Something to be proud of, I'm sure.

Broccers wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:30 am So we left the EU.

You're either a year late or a week early on that one fella.

So many wasted meetings and sending politicians over to negotiate a deal and in the end all we needed was for Boris to seduce von der Leyen 4 times over the phone.

Rich B wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:34 am

Broccers wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:30 am So we left the EU.

You're either a year late or a week early on that one fella.

Not at all. There was a glimpse of hope from the left remain this day would not come to fruition.

I hope they use their brains to support their country from now on.

Broccers wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:59 am

Rich B wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:34 am

Broccers wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:30 am So we left the EU.

You're either a year late or a week early on that one fella.

Not at all. There was a glimpse of hope from the left remain this day would not come to fruition.

I hope they use their brains to support their country from now on.

Unlike the right you mean?

DeskJockey wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:00 am

Broccers wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:59 am

Rich B wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:34 am You're either a year late or a week early on that one fella.

Not at all. There was a glimpse of hope from the left remain this day would not come to fruition.

I hope they use their brains to support their country from now on.

Unlike the right you mean?

No

Good chat Broccers.

Broccers wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:13 am

DeskJockey wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:00 am

Broccers wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:59 am

Not at all. There was a glimpse of hope from the left remain this day would not come to fruition.

I hope they use their brains to support their country from now on.

Unlike the right you mean?

No

I think you meant yes.