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Doesn't matter, you're the one using terms without explaining what you mean.

DeskJockey wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:09 am Doesn't matter, you're the one using terms without explaining what you mean.

Zero. Good lad. Keep it up.

Ah. The Broccers Dodge. Good you're consistent.

Broccers wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:55 am That's great Dave!

I worked for the civil service at head office by the way. They ran Jobclubs etc in the 90s. On a Friday afternoon a filing cabinet got opened and everyone got some booze out. These were high Grade employees upto grade 7. Clueless about real life.

I worked for them (at a contractor) at one point for a couple of years directly and indirectly for about 3 more. The stint indirectly was first and I always thought I was getting some sort of filtered bullshit/incompetence from the people who worked directly with them and blamed them. When I worked directly with them I soon discovered it wasn’t and they were just utterly fucking useless and incompetent.
They lived in a dream world most of the time where time, money and unrealistic expectations were part of the norm. They would set a budget which was ok for a system (we did about 7/8 systems to 3 different departments in the same sector and they were all the same) that was mondeo spec and got this through financial gateways because it was realistic for getting approval, it would also meet requirements. Once the job was approved they would then proceed to shift the goal posts of the contract adding more and more requirements (usually adding bleeding edge tech that wasn’t fully developed or just didn’t work) without additional funding, expecting a Ferrari for their mondeo money. They would then blame the contractor and moan when things over ran or didn’t work as corners were inevitably cut.
They also had this culture of zero responsibility where no one would ever make a decision of sign anything off unless it was the project head, zero empowerment so you were always waiting forever for anything to be approved, it seemed to be a culture of fearing the person at the top. Again it caused delays and over run.
I don’t know if this extends to other departments outside of the sector I worked in its only my experience, but they needed someone to sort things out where I was that was for sure. I’d had enough after those few years and went back to private sector where I’ve stayed.

Absolutely bang on the money.

DeskJockey wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:31 am Ah. The Broccers Dodge. Good you're consistent.

Ignore.

Broccers wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:31 pm

DeskJockey wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:31 am Ah. The Broccers Dodge. Good you're consistent.

Ignore.

Yes, probably best to ignore you.

V8Granite wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:07 am Priti reminds me of someone I worked with a long time ago, he was very good at his job

Someone that doesn't understand the difference between 'terrorism' and 'counter terrorism' is quite definitely not very good at her job!

Broccers wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:55 am I worked for the civil service at head office by the way.

You worked in Whitehall? I would never have guessed that!

I worked for the Treasury Solicitor’s office briefly before I qualified as a solicitor. They behaved exactly as you’d expect of civil servants; quiet, responsible, got on with the job.

Jobbo wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:24 am

Broccers wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:55 am I worked for the civil service at head office by the way.

You worked in Whitehall? I would never have guessed that!

I worked for the Treasury Solicitor’s office briefly before I qualified as a solicitor. They behaved exactly as you’d expect of civil servants; quiet, responsible, got on with the job.

Lol. Employment service.

Seems the papers agree about this fella and his lack of achievement.

Which papers are they Broccers?

unzippy wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:43 pm Which papers are they Broccers?

Have a look fella. I'm sure you can use Google.

Broccers wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:41 pm

unzippy wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:43 pm Which papers are they Broccers?

Have a look fella. I'm sure you can use Google.

If your unevidenced assertion were true, why would it be a criticism? He’s a career civil servant. He’s there to serve, not take credit.

There to take instructions and perform well for the good of the country.

Look up his success in hs2 and windrush. I'm sure you guys are obtuse on purpose.

Broccers wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:41 pm

unzippy wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:43 pm Which papers are they Broccers?

Have a look fella. I'm sure you can use Google.

I see some papers implying that hes not up the job and the others saying shes a bully.

Two different points of view out there.

Broccers wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:36 pm There to take instructions and perform well for the good of the country.

Look up his success in hs2 and windrush. I'm sure you guys are obtuse on purpose.

unzippy wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:52 pm

Broccers wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:41 pm

unzippy wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:43 pm Which papers are they Broccers?

Have a look fella. I'm sure you can use Google.

I see some papers implying that hes not up the job and the others saying shes a bully.

Two different points of view out there.

Why ask where to look then Dave

ZedLeg wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:26 am

Broccers wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:36 pm There to take instructions and perform well for the good of the country.

Look up his success in hs2 and windrush. I'm sure you guys are obtuse on purpose.

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Zero input again. I love you guys. Good job I can cope with bullying else I'd have to pop to the dr's for some meds.

Trying to have a conversation with you is pointless broccers. Your comments read like a gammon twitter bot.

ZedLeg wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:39 am Trying to have a conversation with you is pointless broccers. Your comments read like a gammon twitter bot.

And you're a lefty twat. But hey let's not discuss the subject.

What about discussing how many kids does Boris actually have?