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Re: what car thread - Lotus Edition

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 8:51 am
by Jobbo
duncs500 wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 8:39 am
dan wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:53 pm
Matty wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:27 pm
Edit - here's one of Dan's too (at least, rebuilt by him) and a much nicer red than the flat red.
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/16703412
I only rebuilt the engine, the rest of it is very tidy but nothing to do with me :D
TBH, if you want a Honda, that has a lot of desirable bits on it.
That does look very appealing. Obviously worth speaking to Dan before viewing since he's already seen it.

One odd thing is that the ad refers to two sets of wheels but neither of those sets is the one pictured on the car, I think?

Oh, and Rich: no air-con!

Re: what car thread - Lotus Edition

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:15 am
by duncs500
Jobbo wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 8:51 am
duncs500 wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 8:39 am
dan wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:53 pm

I only rebuilt the engine, the rest of it is very tidy but nothing to do with me :D
TBH, if you want a Honda, that has a lot of desirable bits on it.
That does look very appealing. Obviously worth speaking to Dan before viewing since he's already seen it.

One odd thing is that the ad refers to two sets of wheels but neither of those sets is the one pictured on the car, I think?

Oh, and Rich: no air-con!
Yeah, those are the AWI it's pictured on.

Re: what car thread - Lotus Edition

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 10:07 am
by Sundayjumper
Jobbo wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 8:51 am Oh, and Rich: no air-con!
"you don't need air-con, the open roof is my air-con"

c.f. the same prats who say you don't need a radio because "you don't need a radio, the sound of the engine is my music"

Re: what car thread - Lotus Edition

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 10:22 am
by duncs500
Unlikely to get a/c on a S1 I believe?

Can't say I've ever felt the need for it in an open car, I'd probably just be happy the weather was decent for a change!

Re: what car thread - Lotus Edition

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 10:28 am
by dan
duncs500 wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 10:22 am Unlikely to get a/c on a S1 I believe?

Can't say I've ever felt the need for it in an open car, I'd probably just be happy the weather was decent for a change!
Some exiges and the malaysian market elises had it and it doesn't work in either.

Re: what car thread - Lotus Edition

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 12:55 pm
by Jobbo
duncs500 wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:15 am Yeah, those are the AWI it's pictured on.
Cheers Duncs - I assumed AWI was the name for some aftermarket wheels. I have been educated.

Re: what car thread - Lotus Edition

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 2:09 pm
by Rich B
duncs500 wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 10:22 am Unlikely to get a/c on a S1 I believe?

Can't say I've ever felt the need for it in an open car, I'd probably just be happy the weather was decent for a change!
Yep, priorities and requirements may change as the thread goes on - that was the point of the thread!

Re: what car thread - Lotus Edition

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 2:24 pm
by duncs500
FWIW aircon in my S2 Exige was half decent, which was most handy when taking it to Sorrento! I can't remember the last time I drove something open topped when it was properly hot.

Re: what car thread - Lotus Edition

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:19 pm
by scotta
duncs500 wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 2:24 pm FWIW aircon in my S2 Exige was half decent, which was most handy when taking it to Sorrento! I can't remember the last time I drove something open topped when it was properly hot.
I've just had the AC serviced in the S3 - its icy cold and works well.

Re: what car thread - Lotus Edition

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:49 pm
by Carlos
RichB can absolutely see his own dick (TM Ste) and will demonstrate this by not being swayed into a S2 or newer.

Re: what car thread - Lotus Edition

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 7:24 pm
by Rich B
Carlos wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:49 pm RichB can absolutely see his own dick (TM Ste) and will demonstrate this by not being swayed into a S2 or newer.
Ummm, What?! 😂

are you saying i’m not fat or i have a big dick. (Both are true obviously..)

Re: what car thread - Lotus Edition

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 7:46 pm
by Carlos
Haha!

I was never sure what Ste meant but it was Alpha and S1 all the way :lol:

Re: what car thread - Lotus Edition

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:20 pm
by Mito Man
I vaguely remember this.
Something about S1 Elise is the ultimate. S2 and S3 were merely made bigger and thus heavier to accommodate obese customers with small cocks.

Re: what car thread - Lotus Edition

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:32 pm
by IanF
Until he bought a S2/3, that is..

Re: what car thread - Lotus Edition

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:01 pm
by Rich B
i’m keeping an open mind, but i’m S1 focussed. the rest don’t really appeal any more (except an exige S).

Re: what car thread - Lotus Edition

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:44 pm
by integrale_evo
Mito Man wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:20 pm I vaguely remember this.
Something about S1 Elise is the ultimate. S2 and S3 were merely made bigger and thus heavier to accommodate obese customers with small cocks.
The tub isn’t any bigger, they just hacked a lump off the top of the sill to make it easier for middle age chubbers to get in and out of. If you see them bare it looks like they just sliced a section off. Not sure whether the tub was rigid enough to take it as it was, or if they had to reinforce it under it to make up for it.

If it was my money I’m not sure I’d be interested in anything other than an S1

Re: what car thread - Lotus Edition

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:19 am
by dan
It knocked about 500 newtons off the torsional rigidity figure but other than that there were no other mods to the S2 chassis until they changed the rear section to bolt (heavier) toyota subframes on.

I've got a lovely SVA Sport 160 in at the moment that i've just fitted vernier pulleys to, retimed the cams and remapped the original GEMS ecu to change the mapping from speed density to alpha-n and now it drives like a normal car but still has all the lovely character that the 160 usually has.

Re: what car thread - Lotus Edition

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:32 am
by Jobbo
dan wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:19 am I've got a lovely SVA Sport 160 in at the moment that i've just fitted vernier pulleys to, retimed the cams and remapped the original GEMS ecu to change the mapping from speed density to alpha-n and now it drives like a normal car but still has all the lovely character that the 160 usually has.
I take it that's a customer car not for sale - you tease :lol:

Re: what car thread - Lotus Edition

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:01 am
by mik
dan wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:19 am It knocked about 500 newtons off the torsional rigidity figure but other than that there were no other mods to the S2 chassis until they changed the rear section to bolt (heavier) toyota subframes on.
Interesting. It's not always easy to get info on torsional rigidity - the only figures I can find for the Elise are in the 10,000 to 10,500 Nm/deg range.

I was also idly looking for Evora info (as they thinned the sills on the later 4xx cars) but I can't find anything that would confirm any change? (Evora chassis seems to be around the 26,500 Nm/deg - which makes sense as it's considerably bigger & heavier than Elise).

Re: what car thread - Lotus Edition

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:32 am
by dan
Jobbo wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:32 am
dan wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:19 am I've got a lovely SVA Sport 160 in at the moment that i've just fitted vernier pulleys to, retimed the cams and remapped the original GEMS ecu to change the mapping from speed density to alpha-n and now it drives like a normal car but still has all the lovely character that the 160 usually has.
I take it that's a customer car not for sale - you tease :lol:
Oh yes, not for sale sorry 😬