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Orange Cola wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 9:35 am I thought this was the case until I saw the total death rate didn’t start spiking until Feb time, however this article confirms the suspicion that the virus was around long before we thought it was

Coronavirus: France's first known case 'was in December' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52526554

My aunt spent 3 days in hospital in mid January with a pneumonia type illness that the doctors said 'We have no idea what this is' to her, oxygen needed and she had the classic cough and fever of Covid. She's convinced she's had it but we weren't testing at the time so it's unconfirmed. She's recovered now, my uncle was ill too and despite having had heart bypass ops in the past didn't develop anything more than mild symptoms but he does take Metformin for his T2 diabetes which anecdotally has been said to help.

Foz wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 9:41 am The economic impact is growing, we have to get some form of solution, the double covid/oil price impact locally here is rapidly becoming catastrophic.

how many of those furloughed have a job to return to, in hospitality that's going to be a tiny number

Isn't it 3 weeks since the last extension now? My mind is blurring weeks into each other.

If it is surely it's now time to start down the path trodden by the other countries so we can try and salvage what's left of these industries. Oil is never likely to be the same, even with Michael Moore trashing the green energy industry we are never likely to ramp up to the levels of pre covid as I think commuting will be massively cut and business travel almost non-existant.

drcarlos wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 10:18 am

Foz wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 9:41 am The economic impact is growing, we have to get some form of solution, the double covid/oil price impact locally here is rapidly becoming catastrophic.

how many of those furloughed have a job to return to, in hospitality that's going to be a tiny number

Isn't it 3 weeks since the last extension now? My mind is blurring weeks into each other.

If it is surely it's now time to start down the path trodden by the other countries so we can try and salvage what's left of these industries. Oil is never likely to be the same, even with Michael Moore trashing the green energy industry we are never likely to ramp up to the levels of pre covid as I think commuting will be massively cut and business travel almost non-existant.

I don't think commuting will drop that much. Nor business travel. Undoutbedly there will be long-lasting/permanent changes to travel behaviour, but we're creatures of habit with short memories, and we like our cars.I'd be surprised if any permanent change is more than a 10% fall in peak travel behaviour (which is in itself not inconsiderable).

Jesus fvcking wept

My Mrs works or did in posh furniture sales they are thinking about opening again at the end of the month. I can't see why they can't now.

I've spent the downtime doing work things I put off due to being too busy. Got to feel for the people with massive financial shocks coming their way.

Swervin_Mervin wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 10:32 am Jesus fvcking wept

#americans# the security should have had an AK 47 to protect him and his family!!!!!! AAAAAAHHHH bear arms!!!!

Swervin_Mervin wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 10:32 am Jesus fvcking wept

Store employees in Stillwater reported threats of violence, including one involving a gun. Mayor Will Joyce swiftly amended the order to strongly encourage, but not mandate, the wearing of face masks.

Yeah, because it's the face masks that are the problem.

Jesus fucking wept these people are retarded.

Rich B wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 10:47 am

Swervin_Mervin wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 10:32 am Jesus fvcking wept

#americans# the security should have had an AK 47 to protect him and his family!!!!!! AAAAAAHHHH bear arms!!!!

Canada has passed new gun laws to ban assault weapons after their recent shootings and Americans are protesting that. I saw a Canadian and an American discussing it on Twitter. “Enjoy your journey into tyranny”, said the yank. They’re mentally ill en masse.

NotoriousREV wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 11:00 am

Rich B wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 10:47 am

Swervin_Mervin wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 10:32 am Jesus fvcking wept

#americans# the security should have had an AK 47 to protect him and his family!!!!!! AAAAAAHHHH bear arms!!!!

Canada has passed new gun laws to ban assault weapons after their recent shootings and Americans are protesting that. I saw a Canadian and an American discussing it on Twitter. “Enjoy your journey into tyranny”, said the yank. They’re mentally ill en masse.

America used to be glamorous growing up as a kid, all the TV and films, now honestly other than a few major cities I have zero desire to visit the place!

It’s a third world country with money.

NotoriousREV wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 12:12 pm It’s a third world country with money.

The Wild West.

Carlos wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 12:37 pm

NotoriousREV wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 12:12 pm It’s a third world country with money.

The Wild West.

No, there was hope and positivity available there for some.

Beany wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 12:37 pm

Carlos wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 12:37 pm

NotoriousREV wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 12:12 pm It’s a third world country with money.

The Wild West.

No, there was hope and positivity available there for some.

coming from our own little ray of sunshine!!

What made the government develop their own app for contact tracing rather than tying in with Google & Apple to get their one? I saw something a while back that they thought the joint app wouldn’t be ready in time and wanted to take control of notifications centrally rather than enabling it on devices as it would give them better MI, but that didn’t make much sense to me so wasn’t sure what was going on.

Presumably this government app is anonymising everything anyway?

A critique here:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/05/0 ... virus_app/

now that’s the kind of incompetence only our government can be experts at. Making an app which just doesn’t work.

Beany wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 1:05 pm A critique here:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/05/0 ... virus_app/

Eh?

It will work if people open the app and leave it open and the phone unlocked.

Ascender wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 12:54 pm What made the government develop their own app for contact tracing rather than tying in with Google & Apple to get their one? I saw something a while back that they thought the joint app wouldn’t be ready in time and wanted to take control of notifications centrally rather than enabling it on devices as it would give them better MI, but that didn’t make much sense to me so wasn’t sure what was going on.

From what I can gather, this way it allows them to automatically allocate tests to people (I guess it generates a code or link so you can order a test).

However, if it doesn't work in the background it's pretty fucked. If they tested it on an RAF base surely that was already enough to confirm that it doesn't work in that case!?

Mito Man wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 1:10 pm now that’s the kind of incompetence only our government can be experts at. Making an app which just doesn’t work.

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