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Yes so why bother

To make the EU negotiators shit themselves... or something

dinny_g wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:16 pm To make the EU negotiators shit themselves... or something

Anyone with an iota of sense would know we can now just leave without a deal if need be. Shares not liking it

As the year draws to a close and we look to the bright future ahead I spot even the FT has changed its thinking

https://www.ft.com/content/05e5fcf0-176 ... nts-anchor

How Britain can prosper after it leaves the EU

Brexit presents a challenge for Britain’s economy, but this is no time for doommongering. The UK has plenty of world class institutions, particularly in its service sector. The City of London is among the world’s premier financial hubs. UK research universities regularly top the global league tables. The country hosts the most vibrant tech industry in Europe. Creative industries, led by film and TV, are booming.

The UK has gone further than most developed countries in creating a knowledge economy. It has one of the highest rates of university graduation in the world and spends more of its national income on education than any rich country bar Norway and New Zealand, according to the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development. Deep and liquid capital markets as well as a flexible labour market make it easy for companies to get the best from an educated workforce.

Yet the UK remains a two-tier economy: a sophisticated, internationally-orientated and high-productivity services sector, particularly based around London and university cities, and a low-wage, UK-orientated economy elsewhere. The gulf between the two was exposed by the 2016 referendum. To thrive after Brexit the government will need to make sure both parts of the economy have what they require to succeed.

The best way to play to its strengths is to remain open. Access to European or US markets will need to be negotiated but there is nothing other countries can do to force the UK to close itself. Competition from foreign companies has been one of the benefits of EU membership and should continue. Attracting the best global talent will be essential; the government has already relaxed restrictions on Indian tech workers and doctors. Foreign investment has helped to lift productivity.

Manufacturing, however, will be devastated without the access to foreign markets that allows factories to take advantage of economies of scale. Britain will no longer be able to participate as easily in continent-wide supply chains in carmaking or aerospace; nor will regulatory approval for chemicals and pharmaceuticals be automatic. Some companies will shift factories and jobs back from the continent to Britain, but the net movement will be of production leaving the UK.

This makes it doubly important to raise living standards in so-called left behind areas. Productivity must increase in the lower paid and often insecure jobs within Britain’s domestically-oriented economy, such as care work and online shopping delivery. Government policy needs to look beyond glamorous high tech jobs.

That means better alternatives to university education, including for adults, and a package of reforms aimed at reducing one-sided flexibility where workers bear all the risk. The Augar review of higher education and the Taylor review of the future of work provide “oven-ready” proposals.

The departure from the EU will harm high productivity sectors too. There are measures the government can take to offset the damage: investment in transport infrastructure and research and development — the UK lacks the kind of non-university research institutes popular in the US and Germany. These are good ideas in any case; Brexit makes them essential.

The UK economy will survive: it is diversified, flexible and more robust than many think. To thrive, however, will require intelligent political leadership and a government with a realistic appreciation of its strengths and weaknesses. Boris Johnson has been awarded a stable majority by the voters. He should make the most of it.


See we were right all along

Have a good one lads ladies none binary whatevers

Broccers wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:52 am To thrive, however, will require intelligent political leadership and a government with a realistic appreciation of its strengths and weaknesses.

This is the bit that worries me.

Who is "we" and what were you right about? Seems an article outlining a number of possibilities dependent on a multitude of undefined factors, barring the most illusive one...

I'm assuming you've quoted the whole article.

Oh do fuck off with the questions and go to the pub

Broccers wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:03 pm Oh do fuck off with the questions and go to the pub

Brexit in a single phrase

Classic broccers, post a bunch of shite on Hogmanay so he can come back in later and call everyone who responds a sad sack .

ZedLeg wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:44 pm Classic broccers, post a bunch of shite on Hogmanay so he can come back in later and call everyone who responds a sad sack .

I think he's just hoping you're going to be pissed later so he has someone to argue with.

Nah I’m aff it. Not even going out tonight

ZedLeg wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:44 pm Classic broccers, post a bunch of shite on Hogmanay so he can come back in later and call everyone who responds a sad sack .

New Year's eve if you don't mind. Don't come on a Brexit thread with any of that foreign nonsense.

ZedLeg wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:09 pm Nah I’m aff it. Not even going out tonight

Always unconventional! I'm off it tomorrow. Oops, IIRC the forum has issues with dry Jan.

McSwede wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:28 pm

ZedLeg wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:44 pm Classic broccers, post a bunch of shite on Hogmanay so he can come back in later and call everyone who responds a sad sack .

New Year's eve if you don't mind. Don't come on a Brexit thread with any of that foreign nonsense.

If you don’t want any of that foreign nonsense, presumably you celebrate New Year on 31st October? Or are you happy doing what the bloody Romans and a subsequent Pope tells you?

I’ll be celebrating on Jan 13th...

Cesar was alright in my book

I did one of those DNA test things a couple of years ago. 0% English.

NotoriousREV wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:36 pm

McSwede wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:28 pm

ZedLeg wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:44 pm Classic broccers, post a bunch of shite on Hogmanay so he can come back in later and call everyone who responds a sad sack .

New Year's eve if you don't mind. Don't come on a Brexit thread with any of that foreign nonsense.

If you don’t want any of that foreign nonsense, presumably you celebrate New Year on 31st October? Or are you happy doing what the bloody Romans and a subsequent Pope tells you?

It was said in jest BTW.

FWIW I could have added a smiley face

McSwede wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:03 pm

NotoriousREV wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:36 pm

McSwede wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:28 pm

New Year's eve if you don't mind. Don't come on a Brexit thread with any of that foreign nonsense.

If you don’t want any of that foreign nonsense, presumably you celebrate New Year on 31st October? Or are you happy doing what the bloody Romans and a subsequent Pope tells you?

It was said in jest BTW.

FWIW I could have added a smiley face

Yes, because I was 100% deadly serious and not just taking the piss.

duncs500 wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 7:34 pm I did one of those DNA test things a couple of years ago. 0% English.

The same as all all of us then?

Zonda_ wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:32 pm

duncs500 wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 7:34 pm I did one of those DNA test things a couple of years ago. 0% English.

The same as all all of us then?

*shrugs*