Trump

[IanF]

I may have mentioned it on here already, but what happens if musk does get the boot?

I’m sure the value is massively inflated by the cult of Elon and his constant web of lies, bullshit and false promises that even though it’s him killing the company for many people, what happens to it without him?

Jaguar, without the heritage..

[Rich B]

to me, there’s 3 things Tesla has/had which elevated them above the rest.

They were first and what they made was good enough and fun.
They have the charging network.
They were cool and made EVs desirable - Elon was a big part of this.

Now, all the normal makers have caught up with the tech, the Chinese are undercutting the price, EVs are depreciating like a rock and the charging network is no longer exclusive.

But more relevant is no one wants to be seen to be supporting Musk, which is more relevant than all the points above. it’s almost like buying a tesla now means you support Trump & Russia and are against Ukraine.

I don’t really see how they can come back from it.

[Mito Man]

Was watching some of Rich Rebuilds latest video last night. It’s no wonder the EU and US are bricking themselves over Chinese cars and adding so many tariffs. If they’re actually good cars long term then every established manufacturer is screwed. I reckon it’s way going to be way bigger than when Japanese brands and then South Korean got a foothold.

[Beany]

Apparently according to Trump, people not buying Teslas is "illegally and collusively" boycotting them, and Trump is going to buy a new one first thing today.

Which is on brand for virtue signalling, seeing as Presidents literally aren't allowed to drive.

In the trump thread because the closest Musk gets to this is going "Thanks daddy Trump" in a quote tweet.

Truly one of the statements of all time from Trump, where he used some of those words he heard in the big boys comics.

Also, I don't think he's being punished for his 'tremendous skills', unless his tremendous skill is fatally misjudging how much of a tragic edgelord he can be and still get away with it.

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[Rich B]

i love that it’s actually been noticed by Trump - that means it’s hurting!

[Simon]

Also it's illegal for a president to endorse any product or service. Not that the law ever stopped the orange toddler.

[DaveE]

to me, there’s 3 things Tesla has/had which elevated them above the rest.

They were first and what they made was good enough and fun.
They have the charging network.
They were cool and made EVs desirable - Elon was a big part of this.

Now, all the normal makers have caught up with the tech, the Chinese are undercutting the price, EVs are depreciating like a rock and the charging network is no longer exclusive.

But more relevant is no one wants to be seen to be supporting Musk, which is more relevant than all the points above. it’s almost like buying a tesla now means you support Trump & Russia and are against Ukraine.

I don’t really see how they can come back from it.

And the people who DO support Trump/Musk wouldn't buy a Tesla

[DaveE]

I also think another issue for Tesla/EVs in general is that there just doesn't seem to be a huge amount of innovation/differentiation?

If you look at ICE (broadly) you have petrol, diesel, different cylinder count, different drive configs (placement of engine, gearbox, FWD/RWD/4x4*), different gearbox options

ICE cars sound, and feel very different across the spectrum, and there's been constant, and appreciable innovation

I'm not sure EVs can do this and basically keep coming up with reasons for you to buy a new one every couple of years

I've only been in a few EVs, and they all basically feel the same - even an EV black cab felt basically the same in the way it pulled away, accelerated, sounded etc

* yes, I know that you have this to some degree with EVs

[Beany]

Tesla could have made major updates to the mainline model range to keep them competitive with the competition.....

....but Musk had them make the Cybertruck instead, a machine for divorced dads who spend a bit too long looking at their daughters young teenage friends. And are racist.

[Nefarious]

i love that it’s actually been noticed by Trump - that means it’s hurting!

I reads to me like Elon has had a whinge to uncle Donnie, even down to describing it as "my baby".

Which means its *really* hurting

[Beany]

Three months ago: I'm on the path to being the worlds first trillionaire
Today: I crashed my value so hard with various dodgy authoritarian nation states invested in me, that I've been handed a one way ticket to Saudi Arabia to meet Hacksaw Abdul. I'm sure he's just like me with that chainsaw on stage and it's nothing to worry about!

[Simon]

As I saw on Reddit, if it is one of Elon's 'babies' then that means he's about to abandon it any day now.

[jamcg]

As I saw on Reddit, if it is one of Elon's 'babies' then that means he's about to abandon it any day now.

He straps them to his chest as living body armour these days

[Sundayjumper]

Now raising tariffs on Canadian steel & aluminium to 50%.

[Beany]

LOL, apparently Trump says that Ontario is "not allowed" to put large tariffs on exports.

Go cry about it, I guess, you near-death mango nonce-appreciator.

[mik]

LOL, apparently Trump says that Ontario is "not allowed" to put large tariffs on exports.

Go cry about it, I guess, you near-death mango nonce-appreciator.

It's started. "US President Donald Trump says he will double tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminium from 25% to 50%" in retaliation to 25% tariffs Ontario placed on electricity exports (in response to Trump's initial blinkered shit).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cly412xwz44t

[Marv]

But more relevant is no one wants to be seen to be supporting Musk, which is more relevant than all the points above. it’s almost like buying a tesla now means you support Trump & Russia and are against Ukraine.

I don’t really see how they can come back from it.

I have no idea either, but I know people have short memories.

[ZedLeg]

People were still congratulating Starmer on handling Trump well and safeguarding future trade deals while they were doing nakedly fascist shit in America.

People don’t give a shit as long as they’re comfortable.

[Simon]

Don't worry guys, Trump got this.



Link

For the Teslas lined up outside the WH with Space Karen earlier today.

[Mito Man]

Worst case scenario Trump will bail Tesla, subsidise it. Already has all the excuses with "American workers" as he keeps emphasising.
Reminds me of Obama and the Ford, GM, Chrysler, Dodge bailout. Come to think of it I think Bush bailed them out too.