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Re: Grand Tour Series 3
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:22 pm
by ZedLeg
Nathan wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:58 pm
I still have my doubts about the Clarkson / Oisin Tymon 'fracas'
What a coincidence it managed to be front page news for so long and ended up with a £150m Amazon contract.
Yeah it's not like Jeremy had any history of acting like a cunt or any streaming company has thrown huge amounts of money around to secure high profile people

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Re: Grand Tour Series 3
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:23 pm
by Nathan
GG. wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:17 pm
Choosing Argentina after they'd bought the three cars and noticed that the 928 had a potential pun in it is more plausible than finding a very rare 928 GT that just happened to have a numberplate that could be inflammatory to the country they'd already decided to visit.
So basically one of the options Simon already posted?
Re: Grand Tour Series 3
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:24 pm
by GG.

I was referring to Simon's post and pointing out that the option I described was more likely than vice versa.
Re: Grand Tour Series 3
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:24 pm
by Nathan
ZedLeg wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:22 pm
Nathan wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:58 pm
I still have my doubts about the Clarkson / Oisin Tymon 'fracas'
What a coincidence it managed to be front page news for so long and ended up with a £150m Amazon contract.
Yeah it's not like Jeremy had any history of acting like a cunt or any streaming company has thrown huge amounts of money around to secure high profile people

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He never physically assaulted someone before to 'nearly' end his career
Re: Grand Tour Series 3
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:30 pm
by Simon
FWIW I've heard the Porter interview on BBC (?) Radio about the Argentina fracas and what he said was perfectly plausible.
On the 'Hillary for President' etc comments on their cars through Texas etc, of course they wrote that to deliberately provoke them, but then I think even the production team had underestimated what their reactions, hence the 'audio only' segment and hastily wiping the cars down with Coca Cola.
Re: Grand Tour Series 3
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:35 pm
by Nathan
Thus creating their template of going abroad to piss off the locals, enter the news cycle > free PR > top lads bantz
Re: Grand Tour Series 3
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:36 pm
by Jobbo
If the TG/TGT crew were so clever at creating the Argentina and Alabama controversies, you'd think they'd have managed it more than twice in 17 years. Or the fact that they ended up in those situations could perhaps just be chance. Twice in 17 years... yes, almost certainly evidence of a deliberate intention to get a £150m contract with Amazon later. Definitely.
Re: Grand Tour Series 3
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:48 pm
by Nathan
There is only so much you can get away with before OFCOM intervenes.
I appreciate you know/knew RP but these aren't isolated incidents.

Re: Grand Tour Series 3
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:51 pm
by Rich B
Jobbo wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:36 pm
If the TG/TGT crew were so clever at creating the Argentina and Alabama controversies, you'd think they'd have managed it more than twice in 17 years. Or the fact that they ended up in those situations could perhaps just be chance. Twice in 17 years... yes, almost certainly evidence of a deliberate intention to get a £150m contract with Amazon later. Definitely.
theres been loads of deliberately provocative stuff over the years - they’re desperate to get a raise out of the locals to get some column inches, whether it’s “slopes” on bridges or mumbling nursery rhymes with n*****r in them.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear_controversies
Re: Grand Tour Series 3
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:53 pm
by Jobbo
The two I mentioned were quite specific in that they feared for their lives. I'm not convinced OFCOM throw big rocks at you when someone complains.
Were they deliberately controversial? Of course. Was it some sort of intentional plan to further their careers and get a contract from Amazon? Did man ever reach the moon?
Re: Grand Tour Series 3
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:54 pm
by GG.
Jobbo wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:17 pm
ZedLeg wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:33 am
IIRC the difference between a180deg V and a boxer is the way the pistons move.
You can have a flat-plane crank on a vee engine and it isn’t called something different. It’s a stupid distinction to make isn’t it; why not use the well-known term ‘flat’ which distinguishes it from both a boxer and a normal 60-degree V12?
I think the point about 180 degree V is that is distinguishes from flat inline engines. Not common in cars but apparently they are used industrially and in buses (ETA and bikes apparently - e.g. BMW K1200).
Re: Grand Tour Series 3
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:54 pm
by Jobbo
GG. wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:54 pm
I think the point about 180 degree V is that is distinguishes from flat inline engines. Not common in cars but apparently they are used industrially and in buses.
Common in BMWs in 6-cyl format, just mounted vertically

Re: Grand Tour Series 3
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:55 pm
by Rich B
Jobbo wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:53 pm
The two I mentioned were quite specific in that they feared for their lives. I'm not convinced OFCOM throw big rocks at you when someone complains.
Were they deliberately controversial? Of course. Was it some sort of intentional plan to further their careers and get a contract from Amazon? Did man ever reach the moon?
i agree that Amazon pounced on the opportunity rather than any pre-planned agenda.
Re: Grand Tour Series 3
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:55 pm
by Nathan
Jobbo wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:53 pm
The two I mentioned were quite specific in that they feared for their lives. I'm not convinced OFCOM throw big rocks at you when someone complains.
Were they deliberately controversial? Of course. Was it some sort of intentional plan to further their careers and get a contract from Amazon? Did man ever reach the moon?
Nathan wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:58 pm
I still have my doubts about the Clarkson / Oisin Tymon 'fracas'
What a coincidence it managed to be front page news for so long and ended up with a £150m Amazon contract.
^ Not the Alabama / Falklands episodes.
Re: Grand Tour Series 3
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:57 pm
by Nathan
Rich B wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:55 pm
Jobbo wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:53 pm
The two I mentioned were quite specific in that they feared for their lives. I'm not convinced OFCOM throw big rocks at you when someone complains.
Were they deliberately controversial? Of course. Was it some sort of intentional plan to further their careers and get a contract from Amazon? Did man ever reach the moon?
i agree that Amazon pounced on the opportunity rather than any pre-planned agenda.
That or they were already in talks and needed to get out of contract

Re: Grand Tour Series 3
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:59 pm
by Nathan
PS. Flat earth
Re: Grand Tour Series 3
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:00 pm
by Rich B
Best thread ever - I’m in partial agreement with Nathan and Jobbo!
Re: Grand Tour Series 3
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:02 pm
by Jobbo
The contract which was already coming to an end?
Re: Grand Tour Series 3
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:04 pm
by Nathan
Part of me wonders if the fight ever happened but I've not going to rock this beautiful moment.
Re: Grand Tour Series 3
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:04 pm
by Zonda_
Clarkson once called my mate a Welsh ginger but to be fair he is Welsh and ginger and it made me laugh...