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Re: Harry’s Garage

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:59 pm
by Mark_bt52
Jobbo wrote: Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:33 pm Now I’ve watched the 8.32 video, he also omitted the Fiat Dino from his list of cars which have a Ferrari engine. Doesn’t the Maserati 8C too?
Ah but which Ferrari had the same engine as the Fiat Dino bearing in mind that the "Ferrari Dino" wasn't really a "Ferrari"

Re: Harry’s Garage

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:08 pm
by GG.
Jobbo wrote: Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:33 pm Doesn’t the Maserati 8C too?
Alfa 8C? I guess you don't mean the 1930s grand prix car!

Same deal as with the Maserati engines - same block (f430 I think) but different crank, etc. so not a true Ferrari V8.

Re: Harry’s Garage

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:30 pm
by Mito Man
Maserati MC12.

Re: Harry’s Garage

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:19 pm
by GG.
Lancia Stratos too, no?

Re: Harry’s Garage

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:48 pm
by Mito Man
He mentioned that in the video.

Re: Harry’s Garage

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:14 pm
by GG.
Ah ok - makes sense - I wouldn't have thought he'd have forgotten about that.

Re: Harry’s Garage

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:37 pm
by integrale_evo
Stratos has the same issue as the fiat Dino, they both use the v6 from the Dino 246.

The Dino was never sold as or badged as a Ferrari despite being built by them and being named after Enzos son.

Thus a stratos doesn't have a Ferrari engine.

Re: Harry’s Garage

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:17 pm
by Mark_bt52
integrale_evo wrote: Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:37 pm Stratos has the same issue as the fiat Dino, they both use the v6 from the Dino 246.

The Dino was never sold as or badged as a Ferrari despite being built by them and being named after Enzos son.

Thus a stratos doesn't have a Ferrari engine.
Welcome to my point from several hours ago.

Re: Harry’s Garage

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:44 pm
by GG.
Mark_bt52 wrote: Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:17 pm
integrale_evo wrote: Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:37 pm Stratos has the same issue as the fiat Dino, they both use the v6 from the Dino 246.

The Dino was never sold as or badged as a Ferrari despite being built by them and being named after Enzos son.

Thus a stratos doesn't have a Ferrari engine.
Welcome to my point from several hours ago.
Point doesn't look to stand up too well to scrutiny though unfortunately. The lineage of that 65° V6 engine was mixed but it was used as a Ferrari engine in an F2 car in 1956 so pre-dated being used in the 246 Dino by 10 years. Fair enough to call it a 'Ferrari' engine, even if you wouldn't call the 246 a Ferrari I think.

Re: Harry’s Garage

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:28 pm
by integrale_evo
Mark_bt52 wrote: Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:17 pm
integrale_evo wrote: Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:37 pm Stratos has the same issue as the fiat Dino, they both use the v6 from the Dino 246.

The Dino was never sold as or badged as a Ferrari despite being built by them and being named after Enzos son.

Thus a stratos doesn't have a Ferrari engine.
Welcome to my point from several hours ago.
I know you had already made it but seemed a bit hard for some to understand.

Re: Harry’s Garage

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:59 pm
by Jobbo
GG. wrote: Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:08 pm
Jobbo wrote: Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:33 pm Doesn’t the Maserati 8C too?
Alfa 8C? I guess you don't mean the 1930s grand prix car!

Same deal as with the Maserati engines - same block (f430 I think) but different crank, etc. so not a true Ferrari V8.
Alfa 8C; sorry, on holiday so permanently pissed 😃
I think my mind was wandering to the Maser Gran Turismo though, which had Ferrari V8 engine blocks IIRC.

Basically, Harry is doing a slack job. Is he on acid or something?

Oh, and you missed the fact the 8.32 has a different crank to the Ferraris it shares a block with, right? 😄

Re: Harry’s Garage

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:00 am
by Jobbo
Mark_bt52 wrote: Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:59 pm
Jobbo wrote: Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:33 pm Now I’ve watched the 8.32 video, he also omitted the Fiat Dino from his list of cars which have a Ferrari engine. Doesn’t the Maserati 8C too?
Ah but which Ferrari had the same engine as the Fiat Dino bearing in mind that the "Ferrari Dino" wasn't really a "Ferrari"
Has anyone mentioned the fact the Dino wasn’t badged as a Ferrari? No? Good that’ll be why Harry didn’t mention the Stratos in the video.

Re: Harry’s Garage

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:29 am
by JonMad
Thema sounded nice. Reminded me of my A8 but a bit more vocal and certainly more revvy. Lovely to have a woofly engine in a relatively small car.

I don’t recall a Thema other than the 8.32.

Re: Harry’s Garage

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:42 am
by speedingfine
JonMad wrote: Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:29 am Thema sounded nice. Reminded me of my A8 but a bit more vocal and certainly more revvy. Lovely to have a woofly engine in a relatively small car.

I don’t recall a Thema other than the 8.32.
Not even the Turbo?

https://m.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C932031 always had a soft spot for them.

My first encounter with an 8.32 - a complete nob took his up the Longleat hill climb on an Autocar open day in the 90s. He wasn't authorised to go up, went anyway, after telling everyone his car had a Ferrari engine. He did a terrible burnout off the line too. Ah, Ferrari (engine) owners (sorry Ian) 😀

Re: Harry’s Garage

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:48 am
by mik
speedingfine wrote: Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:42 am
JonMad wrote: Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:29 am Thema sounded nice. Reminded me of my A8 but a bit more vocal and certainly more revvy. Lovely to have a woofly engine in a relatively small car.

I don’t recall a Thema other than the 8.32.
Not even the Turbo?

https://m.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C932031 always had a soft spot for them.
Yep - 180-odd bhp, rising to 205bhp on later cars. I recall Fast Lane mag favouring the later turbo over the 8.32 as it handled better with less weight in the nose.

8.32 is a car i have never seen in the flesh.

Re: Harry’s Garage

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:26 pm
by Jimmy Choo
mik wrote: Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:48 am
Yep - 180-odd bhp, rising to 205bhp on later cars. I recall Fast Lane mag favouring the later turbo over the 8.32 as it handled better with less weight in the nose.

8.32 is a car i have never seen in the flesh.
I've seen a couple. One at a specialist and one at the Bristol Auto Moto Festival back when I had the 166.

I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned that the Stratos didn't really have the engine from a Ferrari as the 246 Dino was never badged as a Ferrari.

Re: Harry’s Garage

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:42 pm
by mik
No Jimmy - I dont think the Stratos was ever badged as a Ferrari.

Incidentally, I think many Stratos replicas are badged as Strato's.

Re: Harry’s Garage

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:16 pm
by Simon

Re: Harry’s Garage

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:38 pm
by JLv3.0
Nope.

Re: Harry’s Garage

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:52 pm
by Simon
Really? What's not to like?