Mike1215 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:17 am
I did notice the test 320d Autocar had recently was nigh on a 50k car.
£1700 for Harmon Hardon audio
But again that’s not bad if you break it down, more powerful amplifier, more speakers which will require customised interior moulds, then consider that you can get the interior in many different colours so all of those need different moulds, then the actual speakers are more powerful so all the trim needs much testing to make sure it won’t rattle...
Bull shit. They test the high end stereo, which costs the same as the low end one, knowing they will have stiffer (therefore better) interior parts when you go for the low spec options. You also don’t need different moulding tools when you’ve design for the high spec part and just have blanks for the lower spec ones, therefore it’s a tool configuration issue. Honestly, the difference between a high and a base spec is probably less than £50 to build.
Here’s a good one, my version of Mustang was £34k brand new with a 4cyl engine and a manual transmission. Add on the V8 plus associated changes (larger brakes, different chassis) and you’re at £38k (at the time, it’s more cost now), auto box, convertible roof, custom pack consisting of cooled seats, better stereo, different paint on the wheels, metallic paint, and the list price on mine was £45 thousand and-something-pounds-something-pence. I bet it cost Ford less than £3k including development costs and tooling investment between the base spec and the full spec version of mine.
Mike1215 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:17 am
I did notice the test 320d Autocar had recently was nigh on a 50k car.
£1700 for Harmon Hardon audio
But again that’s not bad if you break it down, more powerful amplifier, more speakers which will require customised interior moulds, then consider that you can get the interior in many different colours so all of those need different moulds, then the actual speakers are more powerful so all the trim needs much testing to make sure it won’t rattle...
Bull shit. They test the high end stereo, which costs the same as the low end one, knowing they will have stiffer (therefore better) interior parts when you go for the low spec options. You also don’t need different moulding tools when you’ve design for the high spec part and just have blanks for the lower spec ones, therefore it’s a tool configuration issue. Honestly, the difference between a high and a base spec is probably less than £50 to build.
True that. On the e36 they all got the indents on the inside of the door card where the extra speaker sits on the expensive stereo model, they just weren't punched through unless that option was ticked.
I wonder what the biggest uplift in base spec to fully loaded is? In percentage terms. And not properly custom stuff - eg getting your Phantom 8 dash made out of solid platinum.
Normal car
Same engine etc (no 320 Vs M3)
Options on the website
Richard wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:50 pm
I wonder what the biggest uplift in base spec to fully loaded is? In percentage terms. And not properly custom stuff - eg getting your Phantom 8 dash made out of solid platinum.
Normal car
Same engine etc (no 320 Vs M3)
Options on the website
As per my earlier reply, you need to be aiming at over 100% to beat the boxster. I'd guess a base spec BMW 116i could have a significant wedge spent on it.
You can't spec one any more but I'm pretty sure the standard spec was fairly basic and bet you could double the base model list price with options which is probably why you don't see that many fully loaded.
Mine is one of the best specd ones I've seen and there's still loads more that could have been added.