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Re: Idiots that don’t understand GDPR
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:40 pm
by Jobbo
They were created by the Data Protection Act 1998 and are unchanged by the GDPR; there are some minor variations in the way they must be handled since the introduction of GDPR.
Hence this tactic has been fairly well known and used for aeons. Disgruntled employees have been advised to use an SAR to find out what their employer holds on them as a matter of course; and for an SAR against the FSA see for instance this 2003 case:
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2003/1746.html
Re: Idiots that don’t understand GDPR
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:43 pm
by NotoriousREV
OK. None of that contradicts anything I’ve said.
Re: Idiots that don’t understand GDPR
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:45 pm
by JLv3.0
Annnnnd we're off!!
Re: Idiots that don’t understand GDPR
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:49 pm
by Rich B
Yessssssssss!
Re: Idiots that don’t understand GDPR
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:49 pm
by JLv3.0
Bloody took long enough! Page 2!
Re: Idiots that don’t understand GDPR
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:50 pm
by NotoriousREV
The Data Protection Act 1998 has been superseded and is therefore irrelevant.
Re: Idiots that don’t understand GDPR
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:04 pm
by NotoriousREV
Just to explain this staggeringly simple concept to my learned friend:
- Yes, people have had the right to a Subject Access Request for a long time
- Yes, we’ve dealt with SARs pre-GDPR
- The right to a SAR has changed: the definition of Personal Data has been expanded, the response time has been shortened, the maximum fines for non-compliance are higher, and companies are no longer allowed to charge for them.
- The publicity surrounding GDPR has driven a huge surge in general data protection requests and queries into us (which imo is a good thing, generally) from a couple a month to over a hundred since GDPR went live.
- The Data Protection Act 1998 has been superseded by The Data Protection Act 2018, which is the U.K. implementation of GDPR.
Re: Idiots that don’t understand GDPR
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:06 pm
by JLv3.0
What utter nonsense
Re: Idiots that don’t understand GDPR
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:15 pm
by NotoriousREV
JLv3.0 wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:06 pm
What utter nonsense
Don’t be ridiculous, popcorn has been around since 3600BC.
Re: Idiots that don’t understand GDPR
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:21 pm
by Gavin
Our local council created a leaflet about GDPR but with very little details about it.
When our local CCN Chair queried it with a friend who had something to do with the legislation it turned out non profit organisations were exempt.
On further investigation it turned out the council hadn't actually registered. It appears to be an utter clustercuddle
Re: Idiots that don’t understand GDPR
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:26 pm
by NotoriousREV
Gavin wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:21 pm
Our local council created a leaflet about GDPR but with very little details about it.
When our local CCN Chair queried it with a friend who had something to do with the legislation it turned out non profit organisations were exempt.
On further investigation it turned out the council hadn't actually registered. It appears to be an utter clustercuddle
I’m pretty sure that GDPR applies to charities and non-profit organisations. I’d recommend getting further guidance on that, if you’re collecting personal data.
Re: Idiots that don’t understand GDPR
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:27 pm
by Gavin
NotoriousREV wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:26 pm
Gavin wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:21 pm
Our local council created a leaflet about GDPR but with very little details about it.
When our local CCN Chair queried it with a friend who had something to do with the legislation it turned out non profit organisations were exempt.
On further investigation it turned out the council hadn't actually registered. It appears to be an utter clustercuddle
I’m pretty sure that GDPR applies to charities and non-profit organisations. I’d recommend getting further guidance on that, if you’re collecting personal data.
I came away from the meeting no more sure than when I went in, the chair is a lawyer and judge and so was his pal and they also seemed entirely unsure as to whether we needed (as Community Councils) to be registered or not! It beggars belief although compared to Brexit........
Re: Idiots that don’t understand GDPR
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:29 pm
by JLv3.0
https://www.accdocket.com/articles/nonp ... rofits.cfm
Proof, were it even required, that not everyone is granted access to Google.
(not aimed at you Dave, easy tiger)
Re: Idiots that don’t understand GDPR
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:45 pm
by Jobbo
NotoriousREV wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:04 pm
- Yes, we’ve dealt with SARs pre-GDPR
So you accept they weren't introduced by the GDPR. How many posts did it take to get to this point?
Thank you for running down the same info I posted in bullet point form, too.
Re: Idiots that don’t understand GDPR
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:46 pm
by NotoriousREV
Jobbo wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:45 pm
NotoriousREV wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:04 pm
- Yes, we’ve dealt with SARs pre-GDPR
So you accept they weren't introduced by the GDPR. How many posts did it take to get to this point?
Thank you for running down the same info I posted in bullet point form, too.
Where did I say they were?
Re: Idiots that don’t understand GDPR
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:58 pm
by Jobbo
NotoriousREV wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:37 pm
People are just using it as a way to be a cunt when the complaint they’ve made to customer services isn’t going their way. Tripped over a “Caution - Wet Floor” cone whilst pissed, and broken your leg? Why not stick in a Subject Access Request when you get told you’re a clumsy twat?
By 'it' did you mean something other than GDPR? You know, the topic of this thread which you started?
Re: Idiots that don’t understand GDPR
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:02 pm
by NotoriousREV
Jobbo wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:58 pm
NotoriousREV wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:37 pm
People are just using it as a way to be a cunt when the complaint they’ve made to customer services isn’t going their way. Tripped over a “Caution - Wet Floor” cone whilst pissed, and broken your leg? Why not stick in a Subject Access Request when you get told you’re a clumsy twat?
By 'it' did you mean something other than GDPR? You know, the topic of this thread which you started?
People are exercising their current rights under GDPR. Have you banged your head, or something?
Once again: point out exactly where I said these rights were introduced by GDPR.
I know I’m an argumentative twat, but even I don’t argue with someone over something they didn’t say.
Re: Idiots that don’t understand GDPR
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:08 pm
by dinny_g
This is like one of those vids on Youtube where a 20' Anaconda takes on a Panther in a fight to the death...
Re: Idiots that don’t understand GDPR
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:10 pm
by NotoriousREV
dinny_g wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:08 pm
This is like one of those vids on Youtube where a 20' Anaconda takes on a Panther in a fight to the death...
Who is which animal? Think carefully.
Re: Idiots that don’t understand GDPR
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:25 pm
by Rich B
NotoriousREV wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:10 pm
dinny_g wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:08 pm
This is like one of those vids on Youtube where a 20' Anaconda takes on a Panther in a fight to the death...
Who is which animal? Think carefully.
