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Looking at the org behind the survey and report, at the top level they are *very* light on actual education experience at the primary school level, and very heavy on VC money and backgrounds. Coupled with the article being in The Times, I'd want to see much more in-depth data before I start raging at the headline figures.

From my own experience I know there are children that struggle, that's no surprise and has always been the case, but there's a lot of detail missing.

If that’s the case then our children’s school must be well ahead of the curve. The numbers seem far too bleak.

One thing we were told by a few teachers though was to leave the teaching to them, we just need to teach them to be kind, to listen and to grow their confidence.

Dave!

My lad still isn't full time at school, but we've managed to start his medication at last this week so hopefully his attendance will improve in the coming weeks. He has a TA that's mostly just shared between him and one other child when he is in. Despite his difficulties he's still got the necessities (ref those basic attainments Matty posted), and I spend time with him on the weekend helping improve his writing and we read his phonics books every night. It's not hard not to be a shit parent if you give a damn.

DeskJockey wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 3:36 pm Looking at the org behind the survey and report, at the top level they are *very* light on actual education experience at the primary school level, and very heavy on VC money and backgrounds. Coupled with the article being in The Times, I'd want to see much more in-depth data before I start raging at the headline figures.

Ah, the "here's the result we want, here's the money to get there" method of research.

Beany wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:50 pm

DeskJockey wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 3:36 pm Looking at the org behind the survey and report, at the top level they are *very* light on actual education experience at the primary school level, and very heavy on VC money and backgrounds. Coupled with the article being in The Times, I'd want to see much more in-depth data before I start raging at the headline figures.

Ah, the "here's the result we want, here's the money to get there" method of research.

Quite possibly, yes.

V8Granite wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 7:35 pm
One thing we were told by a few teachers though was to leave the teaching to them, we just need to teach them to be kind, to listen and to grow their confidence.

Dave!

Aka please don’t teach your kids the bullshit you’ve seen in facebook

Phonics was a weird one, my youngest finds it easy for spelling etc but my eldest needs it the way we were taught which is breaking words down into a rythim.

Joined up writing is a bugbear though, it’s a silly thing to force onto kids but luckily secondary school has no requirement for it.

Dave!

If you can’t do cursive writing won’t that be a major disadvantage for exams later on? Or can kids type on laptops these days?

I think the eldest inherited it from me but I can’t do cursive writing. Never found an issue with speed etc.

My eldest is the same, he can’t see cursive so gets halfway through a word and just stalls. His spelling is awful in cursive for this reason.

Dave!

V8Granite wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 9:50 am Phonics was a weird one, my youngest finds it easy for spelling etc but my eldest needs it the way we were taught which is breaking words down into a rythim.

Joined up writing is a bugbear though, it’s a silly thing to force onto kids but luckily secondary school has no requirement for it.

Dave!

Cursive is a bugbear of mine as well. I'd rather he wrote neatly (which he used to) than joined up. Zero practical benefit at all imo. I'm not sure any of the secondary schools place any importance on it either