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Re: £10k buy vs ~£300 pcm lease
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:57 am
by GG.
Gavster wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:50 am
GG. wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:38 am
Isn't the correct answer here a BMW 5 / Audi A6 or Mercedes E Estate?
I am now allergic to modern-ish BMWs after the last two I owned were the most comprehensively unreliable cars I have ever owned. Utterly horrendous. One of them racked up 40 hours of workshop time at a BMW main dealer for a single problem - thank god for the warranty.
Yes I guess my most recent experience is e90 generation. Mercedes also don't have a great rep. Maybe A6 Avant then?
Re: £10k buy vs ~£300 pcm lease
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:57 am
by Sundayjumper
564.9mpg
(the Prius)
Re: £10k buy vs ~£300 pcm lease
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:07 am
by simon_g
Yeah, newer longer range PHEVs absolutely break the European mpg tests.
US does tests in pure hybrid mode, EPA 52mpg combined = 62mpg UK.
Re: £10k buy vs ~£300 pcm lease
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:18 am
by jamcg
If performance isn’t a priority have you considered a scala? Possibly the most boring car available on the market at the moment, drives great around town, not the most dynamic out of town but not terrible
It’s one of those cars that basically does everything “alright” nothing great, nothing terrible
When I had one I used to get 40mpg easy around town and over 50 on a run. Never put a foot wrong and the se has enough toys, the sel even more so
https://leasing.com/independent-brokers ... 0004072810
Re: £10k buy vs ~£300 pcm lease
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:30 am
by Mito Man
I wouldn't touch anything from Toyota with a CVT, absolutely awful.
Re: £10k buy vs ~£300 pcm lease
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:42 am
by Swervin_Mervin
There you go
Can't promise it won't handle like a pudding, but it would be economical, be able to accommodate a large fridge, and just generally be one of the most practical cars you could own.
Re: £10k buy vs ~£300 pcm lease
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:13 pm
by IanF
Maybe get a convertible? No problem with fridge then!

Also, van hire is £13ph from your nearby B&Q, Costco etc
Re: £10k buy vs ~£300 pcm lease
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:21 pm
by mik
<ring ring>
Hello. Is that Gavsters Large Fridge Delivery Services London-New York-Paris?
Re: £10k buy vs ~£300 pcm lease
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:11 pm
by Sundayjumper
mik wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:34 am
Sundayjumper wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:33 am
Economical & reliable are overrated. I recommend a Discovery 4
You appear to be enjoying this purchase, despite the work it needed.

A keeper?
Enjoying it at the moment yes. Still in the honeymoon period. The work I've done so far has all been useful and made a difference. If it starts giving me stupid problems that can't be solved then my opinion & patience will change quite quickly

Re: £10k buy vs ~£300 pcm lease
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 1:52 pm
by Delphi
I was considering outright buying a 2014-2015 Cayenne as a family bus to replace the XC40 when it goes back in April. I'd discounted leasing another as prices have shot up. Currently paying £360 pcm for the XC40 and the equivalent lease now for this is well north of £500. The wife's managed to get a deal on a Skoda Kodiak 2.0d for essentially the same as we're paying for the Volvo. Probably not the same interior quality as the Volvo but all the usual toys plus wireless CarPlay/Android Auto (which the Volvo lacks) mean it's not going to be unbearable as a daily proposition.
Re: £10k buy vs ~£300 pcm lease
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 2:48 pm
by 16vCento
https://www.leaseloco.com/car-leasing/v ... /grandland
This seems cheap for what spec you get, I had a Corsa Ultimate as a hire car when my Kuga went in for some work and it wasn't bad, the adaptive cruise was good, will do full stop/start in traffic etcs by itself
The 1.2 isn't bad on fuel and pretty quiet on a motorway as well, plenty of space inside these Grandlands too.
Re: £10k buy vs ~£300 pcm lease
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:19 pm
by Gavster
16vCento wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 2:48 pm
https://www.leaseloco.com/car-leasing/v ... /grandland
This seems cheap for what spec you get, I had a Corsa Ultimate as a hire car when my Kuga went in for some work and it wasn't bad, the adaptive cruise was good, will do full stop/start in traffic etcs by itself
The 1.2 isn't bad on fuel and pretty quiet on a motorway as well, plenty of space inside these Grandlands too.
Yeah that's crazy cheap, I've always had a peculiar soft spot for Vauxhalss too. Seems like a lot of car for not much money, that's very, very tempting. Gonna have a quick chat with the lease co.
Re: £10k buy vs ~£300 pcm lease
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:23 pm
by Rich B
I still
have an irrational hatred for Vauxhall - plus i don’t know why they called that one such a shit name - though it is the sort of car a very old grandad would have.
Re: £10k buy vs ~£300 pcm lease
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:36 pm
by Gavster
Excess mileage is 19p/mile which feels steep, it's only about 12p/mile when added onto the contract miles.
Re: £10k buy vs ~£300 pcm lease
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:46 pm
by GG.
Rich B wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:23 pm
have an irrational hatred for Vauxhall - plus i don’t know why they called that one such a shit name - though it is the sort of car a very old grandad would have.
It's one of those brands that seems to have a very high correlation with their stereotypical drivers - basically - chavs.
I think with the reincarnation of Skoda (as the car for middle class people who don't want to be seen as middle class enough to have a VW

) there is really very little market share for Vauxhall. Personally I'd be worried if I bought one that I'd accidently have an STD, an illegitimate child and a glue sniffing habit by the next month.
Interestingly the neighbour son that lives opposite (arrested by the police and clearly a dealer, kids by a woman he doesn't live with, lived a home for a period presumably after release for the nick) had an old Vectra saloon and has then moved into a diesel CLA estate type thing made to look like an AMG. Not sure that's the market Merc want to attract...
Re: £10k buy vs ~£300 pcm lease
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:08 pm
by Rich B
i don’t associate Vauxhall with chavs, more people who don’t know or care about cars whatsoever. Though most have moved onto Nissan Qashqais in the last 10 years.
Re: £10k buy vs ~£300 pcm lease
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:42 pm
by GG.
I should add before I make a mortal enemy of Mik that I don't consider a Monaro to be a Vauxhall but a Holden.
Re: £10k buy vs ~£300 pcm lease
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:04 pm
by mik
GG. wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:42 pm
I should add before I make a mortal enemy of Mik that I don't consider a Monaro to be a Vauxhall but a Holden.
And you'd be correct - although I don't care about them as they are piloted only by bogans.
VXR8's are HSV's. I couldn't
correct the badges fast enough.

Re: £10k buy vs ~£300 pcm lease
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:10 pm
by Jimexpl
Gavster wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:19 pm
16vCento wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 2:48 pm
https://www.leaseloco.com/car-leasing/v ... /grandland
This seems cheap for what spec you get, I had a Corsa Ultimate as a hire car when my Kuga went in for some work and it wasn't bad, the adaptive cruise was good, will do full stop/start in traffic etcs by itself
The 1.2 isn't bad on fuel and pretty quiet on a motorway as well, plenty of space inside these Grandlands too.
Yeah that's crazy cheap, I've always had a peculiar soft spot for Vauxhalss too. Seems like a lot of car for not much money, that's very, very tempting. Gonna have a quick chat with the lease co.
This just shows how good PCP deals were on some cars in 2017-19.
My M140i was £1800 down and £348pm, 9,000mpa, factory ordered to my spec with £2500 of options. I ran it for 2 1/2 years and had £2400 equity when I sold it.
Re: £10k buy vs ~£300 pcm lease
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:14 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
Rich B wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:23 pm
I still
have an irrational hatred for Vauxhall - plus i don’t know why they called that one such a shit name - though it is the sort of car a very old grandad would have.
It's not irrational. They're shit. They were always shit and then they, somewhat amazingly, got even more shit when Stellantis came into being.
And that Corsa makes the Superb I linked look like daylight robbery