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Re: We should switch to km/h - tell me I'm wrong

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:13 pm
by nuttinnew
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:04 am Switching to LHD is more than just costly - it's just plain incredibly difficult. Our roundabouts in the UK do not have symmetrical entry and exit geometry - they're designed to slow entry and ease exit). So you would have to upgrade almost all (non-mini) roundabout junctions.

That wouldn't be a problem, people don't know how to use them and failing to navigate is far from uncommon so the street furniture already needs replacing. No, what'll doom the idea are drivethroughs.

Km/h won't happen because of Brexit, but that doesn't mean we can't change fuel economy figures to kmpg.

Re: We should switch to km/h - tell me I'm wrong

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 4:23 pm
by Marv
mik wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:10 pm I am generally totally pro metric measures, but I’ve found it harder to let miles / mph / mpg go.

I have Waze etc set to imperial but HATE when it mentions Yards or Feet.

I could happily switch to km/kph though. I’m less certain about l/100km just cos I think it’s a shit metric.

PS - Ireland did it without massive problems. It can be done.
With motorcycles, they quote fuel economy in kilometers per litre, which is less of a shit metric than l/100km.

Re: We should switch to km/h - tell me I'm wrong

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 4:25 pm
by Sundayjumper
One is consumption, one is efficiency. They’re both valid.

Re: We should switch to km/h - tell me I'm wrong

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 6:32 pm
by mik
Sundayjumper wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 4:25 pm One is consumption, one is efficiency. They’re both valid.
They give the same info. I don't have any issues with km per litre - it's the random "100" in l/100km that grates, as its just there to make the number look more "readable" or "understandable" or some shit.

We don't quote temperature rise in DegC/3hrs or calorie burn as calories/37minutes.

If l/per km somehow provides "hard to understand" numbers, then don't use it. Use ml/km or any other metric that doesn't include a (stoopid) random constant.

Re: We should switch to km/h - tell me I'm wrong

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:54 pm
by Matty
Talking of numbers, you can get fucked if I'll ever measure torque in Nm....

Re: We should switch to km/h - tell me I'm wrong

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:02 pm
by mik
Matty wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:54 pm Talking of numbers, you can get fucked if I'll ever measure torque in Nm....
Are you holding out for N13m?

Re: We should switch to km/h - tell me I'm wrong

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:35 pm
by Matty
Is that some sort of Scottish measurement? Like Nm/Dram?

Re: We should switch to km/h - tell me I'm wrong

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:09 pm
by Beany
Matty wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:35 pm Is that some sort of Scottish measurement? Like Nm/Dram?
Headbutts per fuck-yer-mam

Re: We should switch to km/h - tell me I'm wrong

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:18 pm
by integrale_evo
No one is going to get excited the first time they hit 100kph. 160kph doesn’t have quite the same ring to it.

Re: We should switch to km/h - tell me I'm wrong

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:34 pm
by nuttinnew
I think the euro equivalent is 200kph, in Germany at least.
Is 100mph still a thing anyway, what with "speed kills" and the vast majority of cars able to do it?

I wonder what effect on tourism driving on the opposite side to most of the rest of Europe has?

Re: We should switch to km/h - tell me I'm wrong

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:32 am
by Swervin_Mervin
nuttinnew wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:34 pm

I wonder what effect on tourism driving on the opposite side to most of the rest of Europe has?
Not much compared to any other UK quirks if say. Cornwall a couple of weeks ago was teeming with Europeans, especially Germans (although I gather they have a German language period TV series that's filmed there - watched them filming a few years back, which was weird)

Re: We should switch to km/h - tell me I'm wrong

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:43 am
by nuttinnew
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:32 am
nuttinnew wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:34 pm

I wonder what effect on tourism driving on the opposite side to most of the rest of Europe has?
Not much compared to any other UK quirks if say. Cornwall a couple of weeks ago was teeming with Europeans, especially Germans (although I gather they have a German language period TV series that's filmed there - watched them filming a few years back, which was weird)

I meant in a positive way, how much does it add to the draw?

Re: We should switch to km/h - tell me I'm wrong

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:46 am
by Gavster
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:32 am
nuttinnew wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:34 pm

I wonder what effect on tourism driving on the opposite side to most of the rest of Europe has?
Not much compared to any other UK quirks if say. Cornwall a couple of weeks ago was teeming with Europeans, especially Germans (although I gather they have a German language period TV series that's filmed there - watched them filming a few years back, which was weird)
It's not the side of the road we drive on that could put them off. We once had a house guest from North America who said they were going to whizz down to Cornwall to see a friend and then head up to the North, then back to London. They figured it was only ~250 miles on each leg so would be a quick and easy journey in the car :lol:

Re: We should switch to km/h - tell me I'm wrong

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:27 am
by IanF
Gavster wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:46 am
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:32 am
nuttinnew wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:34 pm

I wonder what effect on tourism driving on the opposite side to most of the rest of Europe has?
Not much compared to any other UK quirks if say. Cornwall a couple of weeks ago was teeming with Europeans, especially Germans (although I gather they have a German language period TV series that's filmed there - watched them filming a few years back, which was weird)
It's not the side of the road we drive on that could put them off. We once had a house guest from North America who said they were going to whizz down to Cornwall to see a friend and then head up to the North, then back to London. They figured it was only ~250 miles on each leg so would be a quick and easy journey in the car :lol:
And have they reached Cornwall yet!? 😄

Re: We should switch to km/h - tell me I'm wrong

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:56 am
by Explosive Newt
I work in a couple of hospitals.
Hospital A uses dopamine as its main cardiac support drug.
Hospital B uses milrinone.

Milrinone has better evidence and is probably a better drug. But the nurses, doctors, support staff and so forth in hosptial A are so used to dopamine, that were we to switch, we would have to brace for a several month drop in performance before seeing any improvements.

So we continue with no-hopeamine....

Re: We should switch to km/h - tell me I'm wrong

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:22 am
by dinny_g
If the Ireland can make the switch from Miles to Kilometers then anyone can.

Re: We should switch to km/h - tell me I'm wrong

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:31 am
by ZedLeg
Metric measurements after brexit? Nigel Farage's hackles just came up in his sleep like a Jack Russell having a bad dream.

Re: We should switch to km/h - tell me I'm wrong

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:47 am
by Swervin_Mervin
IanF wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:27 am
Gavster wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:46 am
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:32 am

Not much compared to any other UK quirks if say. Cornwall a couple of weeks ago was teeming with Europeans, especially Germans (although I gather they have a German language period TV series that's filmed there - watched them filming a few years back, which was weird)
It's not the side of the road we drive on that could put them off. We once had a house guest from North America who said they were going to whizz down to Cornwall to see a friend and then head up to the North, then back to London. They figured it was only ~250 miles on each leg so would be a quick and easy journey in the car :lol:
And have they reached Cornwall yet!? 😄
:lol:

Re: We should switch to km/h - tell me I'm wrong

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:12 pm
by nuttinnew
dinny_g wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:22 am If the Ireland can make the switch from Miles to Kilometers then anyone can.
"If you don't pay any heed to signs, it doesn't matter what's written on them".