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My car is now binging at me for an inspection, but the oil change is due in 500 or 600 miles so I don't know why they aren't synchronised. Still got to wait over 3 weeks for the actual booking; that'll be irritating whenever I switch on or off.

Ascender wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:20 pm

GG. wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:12 pm

GG. wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 10:53 am

This one did also have an EML illuminated (and I expect that wasn't recent either!)

April for a 911 purchase is probably a bit tight timing wise but the October scramble should be achievable...

Hmm. Maybe this could be brought forward...







No deals have been done as yet I may add...

ETA: I should probably add that the driving experience of this car blew my mind slightly compared to the 997... predominantly the intake noise piped into the cabin. They've absolutely nailed it - I mean it sounds as good as my old man's FF which is phenomenal considering its a 'piddly 3.8 flat six'. The PDK was also a mightily impressive thing - I think I'd be happy with it as much as the old heel toeing gives you a smug sense of satisfaction.

The inventory out of sight was also quite remarkable - 1.3m quids worth of CGT, plus a bad boys 964 3.6 turbo on the ramp having a service...

That is stunning! Love the contrast between the dark red and the black alloys.

As an update on this... clearly the Carmine car didn't happen. Unfortunately my father in law passed away suddenly the week after seeing that car and we were thrown into the turmoil of organising funerals, etc.

As it turned out it was probably for the best, the red was lovely but not necessarily something I'd want to live with, plus the car lacked the GTS interior pack which really hurts come resale time.

Since then I went to view an Agate grey car up for sale from a private individual (great spec, 20k miles - less than 1000 miles done in it since 2021). Went down two days after it was listed, agreed to pay the asking price but wanted it inspected by Porsche. Guy came along the next day (a red bull mechanic apparently) and bought it with no inspection.

Seems we're now in the crazy world where someone will pay near 80k (which effectively was trade not private value) to a private individual for a car with no warranty on a sold as seen basis. The car market has basically turned into the housing market

Anyway, again it may be for the best as I'd rather buy from someone like Paragon with a 12 month warranty they'll stand behind. Likely will end up paying another 5-8k for an equivalent car from them though given the quality of their stock... I have at least decided that Agate is the colour. Could be a long wait

I think all OPCs sell with 2 year Porsche warranty now, and because the market is silly you sometimes find a well-priced car against independents.

Had a good old nose at the configurator and used stock of 991s and 992s recently; much as I'd like one in principle, I don't have the use for one yet but perhaps in future. I think the 991.2 is what grabs me most in terms of looks, spec and price but I've done no research. Is that what you're after?

Not quite - I want a .1 with the N/A motor rather than a .2

They are slower cars but have a fantastic engine note inside the cabin. The .1s are also holding their value better than the .2s as they're another "last of" model in many people's eyes (seems there's always last of something, hydraulic steering, manuals, n/a motors )

Agree that it is possible that a car comes up at a Porsche dealer but as they're now 8 years old I think the main dealers are shying away from them a bit more as they're outside the window of what they typically sell as approved used (though you can get a warranty up to 15 years now I think so isn't technically in issue - more than they are likely coming across .1s less as second had trade ins from people on 3/4 year PCP deals).

I'm quite blown away everytime I'm in one as to how much of a step on they are versus a 997 (which of course makes total sense given a 997 is a rebodied 996 the origins of which dates back to 1997...)

Ah, that probably explains why the 991.2 looks good value. For me the turbo versions would be great because they can do economy as well as performance; I would also want the updated PSM or whatever the infotainment is called.

Amazing that the 991 was launched over a decade ago now.

Real world economy is very little improved in the .2 so I think you'd be disappointed in that. They're much faster and torquier cars though so that would be a real reason to buy a .2, as with the updated ICE/sat nav you mentioned.

It does seem that you can retrofit carplay to a .1 but it involves fiddling around inside the unit and a potential bill of a couple of grand for a new one if you stuff it up.

GG. wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 1:02 pm Real world economy is very little improved in the .2 so I think you'd be disappointed in that. They're much faster and torquier cars though so that would be a real reason to buy a .2, as with the updated ICE/sat nav you mentioned.

It does seem that you can retrofit carplay to a .1 but it involves fiddling around inside the unit and a potential bill of a couple of grand for a new one if you stuff it up.

Is it built in to the dash? Porsche are doing the lovely upgrade units now for older models - Which i'm sure you're aware of.

scotta wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 1:26 pm

GG. wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 1:02 pm Real world economy is very little improved in the .2 so I think you'd be disappointed in that. They're much faster and torquier cars though so that would be a real reason to buy a .2, as with the updated ICE/sat nav you mentioned.

It does seem that you can retrofit carplay to a .1 but it involves fiddling around inside the unit and a potential bill of a couple of grand for a new one if you stuff it up.

Is it built in to the dash? Porsche are doing the lovely upgrade units now for older models - Which i'm sure you're aware of.

Yes the module looks to go inside the PCM itself - essentially an additional motherboard. Sadly I think you have to wait for your PCM to become really out of date before Porsche Classic do one which will fit. Currently think its limited to 996 and 997.1 (i.e. when there isn't a realistic prospect of upselling you to a newer model).

DaveE fitted one of the Carplay things to his 981 Boxster GTS head unit and seems impressed with it. I don't think last of the naturally aspirated cars is nearly as important as the extra power, but hey - I'm not buying. I do prefer the 991's looks (exterior at least) to the 992 still, though; the lower bumpers still look a bit heavy on the 992 and the optional sport design alternatives are just differently heavy, not a solution.

https://jzmporsche.com/cars/porsche-992-p0485/

You know it makes sense..

Yes I saw that one - lovely! There's just the slight issue of the £133,900 asking price being a smidge under double the budget. Even degree level evonomics/the Timculator is going to struggle with that one

I know its slightly wrong but I actually quite like this one in Macadamia. Somehow I'm sure it won't look as good not under studio lights. I also don't want to buy something that will literally be impossible to sell

Macadamia is gorgeous. Black alloys are not

GG. wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 5:10 pm Yes I saw that one - lovely! There's just the slight issue of the £133,900 asking price being a smidge under double the budget. Even degree level evonomics/the Timculator is going to struggle with that one

I know its slightly wrong but I actually quite like this one in Macadamia. Somehow I'm sure it won't look as good not under studio lights. I also don't want to buy something that will literally be impossible to sell

Pfft.. Just use the current US method.. finance it over 8+ years and it’ll see you out for the ICE era!

The red one is lovely! I never fancied a guards red 911 as a kid, much preferred the 928 but I do remember having brochures for the 993 and I loved the cobalt blue like colour.

I would totally go banana yellow or kermit green for a 911, should I ever save enough to get one that still runs!

Good luck with whatever you go for GG. I am off to look up Agate grey

Gavin wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 10:02 am The red one is lovely! I never fancied a guards red 911 as a kid, much preferred the 928 but I do remember having brochures for the 993 and I loved the cobalt blue like colour.

I would totally go banana yellow or kermit green for a 911, should I ever save enough to get one that still runs!

Good luck with whatever you go for GG. I am off to look up Agate grey

Don't need it to run if you're after the colour. Rev (formerly of this parish) was complaining that his was rather rotten. Buy it cheap, have it wrapped and leave it on the drive!

DeskJockey wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 11:25 am Rev (formerly of this parish)...

How's he doing ? He's still blocking me on Facebook so I've no idea what he's been up to.

Sundayjumper wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 11:34 am

DeskJockey wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 11:25 am Rev (formerly of this parish)...

How's he doing ? He's still blocking me on Facebook so I've no idea what he's been up to.

He's fine as far as I know. Last I saw he was mucking about with the Camaro, the Macan was written off and replaced with an Evoque, and the 911 needed £s worth of rust work.

Sundayjumper wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 11:34 am

DeskJockey wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 11:25 am Rev (formerly of this parish)...

How's he doing ? He's still blocking me on Facebook so I've no idea what he's been up to.

He’s just bought a second non-rusty 996 with a fucked engine. Good luck to him.

Jobbo wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 11:56 am

Sundayjumper wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 11:34 am

DeskJockey wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 11:25 am Rev (formerly of this parish)...

How's he doing ? He's still blocking me on Facebook so I've no idea what he's been up to.

He’s just bought a second non-rusty 996 with a fucked engine. Good luck to him.

Yeah, those rust repairs to his existing car must have been fucking scary if buying an entire car makes more sense.

I can't remember the specifics, but I guess if the rust is serious anywhere near the engine bay/rear of the car, then it'd be an engine out job - which probably explains the logic.

I mean, if you're taking the engine out anyway, and there's a risk the tinworm will return because you missed something, then why not get another cheap but clean shell with a dead lump, chuck the engine, really take your time making sure the rear of the car is well sealed against rust, then do the engine out of your rusty car, and drop it into your clean (and slightly better specced, trim wise - MO30 suspension etc) shell?

I’ve not seen all the details, but his working one was £8k, has some dodgy previous paint and apparently pretty extensive rust.

What’s a rust free one with a broken engine worth?

Even if 6-7k it’s probably cheaper than getting some proper metalwork restoration and a decent respray on his old one, and original paint and metal is usually preferable to repaired / restored.

Plus I’d imagine he’ll be able to make a decent chunk back breaking the other for spares. Definitely makes sense to me, especially if you can’t paint / weld but are reasonably handy with the spanners.