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Re: Top 5 grey German cars ranked

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:48 pm
by Gavster
Ascender wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:44 pm
Gavster wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:28 pm
Ascender wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:55 pm I now feel "seen" as the youth say.

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What is that colour called?
Hockenheim Silver (I think).

Or "CBA primer" according to herself.
If it's metallic then you escape judgement

Re: Top 5 grey German cars ranked

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:23 pm
by Ascender
Gavster wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:48 pm
Ascender wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:44 pm
Gavster wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:28 pm

What is that colour called?
Hockenheim Silver (I think).

Or "CBA primer" according to herself.
If it's metallic then you escape judgement
Let's just say there is. And in my defence, the blue one had sold and I absolutely had to buy something that day.

Re: Top 5 grey German cars ranked

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:42 pm
by JonathanE
This was probably the worst car I ever owned, but I sometimes miss it. I believe the official colour name was "GRANITSILBER METALLIC".

Jonathan

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Re: Top 5 grey German cars ranked

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:10 pm
by Mito Man
Ascender wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:23 pm
Gavster wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:48 pm
Ascender wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:44 pm

Hockenheim Silver (I think).

Or "CBA primer" according to herself.
If it's metallic then you escape judgement
Let's just say there is. And in my defence, the blue one had sold and I absolutely had to buy something that day.
I wouldn’t really call your car grey, it’s more of an off white silver.
It’s the actual primer grey mostly VAG stuff that’s boring.

Re: Top 5 grey German cars ranked

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:51 pm
by Rich B
Ascender wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:55 pm I now feel "seen" as the youth say.

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Re: Top 5 grey German cars ranked

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:26 am
by Jobbo
JonathanE wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:42 pm This was probably the worst car I ever owned, but I sometimes miss it. I believe the official colour name was "GRANITSILBER METALLIC".

Jonathan

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My E34 535i Sport was Granite Silver and it was a lovely colour.

Re: Top 5 grey German cars ranked

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:20 am
by Ascender
Rich B wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:51 pm
Ascender wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:55 pm I now feel "seen" as the youth say.

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Strength in numbers!

Re: Top 5 grey German cars ranked

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:38 am
by Ascender
JonathanE wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:42 pm This was probably the worst car I ever owned, but I sometimes miss it. I believe the official colour name was "GRANITSILBER METALLIC".

Jonathan

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That's the best silver/grey on the thread.

Why was it such a bad car? I remember when I first saw one of those at the dealership and it was like something from the future and the past at the same time and looked absolutely incredible. I never got to drive one though.

Re: Top 5 grey German cars ranked

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 11:12 am
by JonathanE
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That's the best silver/grey on the thread.

Why was it such a bad car? I remember when I first saw one of those at the dealership and it was like something from the future and the past at the same time and looked absolutely incredible. I never got to drive one though.
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I bought it for the reasons you mention - I was helping to produce a sci-fi film and we wanted a car for the hero that looked both dated and futuristic. I do love the looks (and the colour!), and the idea of a lazy V12. It was also very comfortable and relaxing for motorway driving. But it was completely unexciting to drive and shockingly unreliable.

I suspect if I had kept it, fixed all the faults and invested in a sports exhaust I might have grown to like it more, but some of the faults were beyond my patience; in particular, four separate auto electricians/BMW specialists were unable to trace a battery drain, so it always needed starting with a booster pack if I left it parked for more than a few days.

If you want to see it on one of the rare occasions it was working, the film is 'Narcopolis' and the 850i is featured extensively; I think it's still on Netflix.

Jonathan

Re: Top 5 grey German cars ranked

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:50 pm
by Explosive Newt
If you want to see it on one of the rare occasions it was working, the film is 'Narcopolis' and the 850i is featured extensively; I think it's still on Netflix.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1957938/me ... i_all_sf_2

Got it.

My Focus ST170 was a lovely metallic grey-blue but it just looked grey in the dark. On the paperwork it was down as blue however. I got pulled over by the fuzz one night for not having an MOT in date and the officer eyed me with suspicion saying "says it's blue here." I mumbled something about "it's metallic" whilst glancing nervously at his glock.

Re: Top 5 grey German cars ranked

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:40 am
by Ascender
JonathanE wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 11:12 am I bought it for the reasons you mention - I was helping to produce a sci-fi film and we wanted a car for the hero that looked both dated and futuristic. I do love the looks (and the colour!), and the idea of a lazy V12. It was also very comfortable and relaxing for motorway driving. But it was completely unexciting to drive and shockingly unreliable.

I suspect if I had kept it, fixed all the faults and invested in a sports exhaust I might have grown to like it more, but some of the faults were beyond my patience; in particular, four separate auto electricians/BMW specialists were unable to trace a battery drain, so it always needed starting with a booster pack if I left it parked for more than a few days.

If you want to see it on one of the rare occasions it was working, the film is 'Narcopolis' and the 850i is featured extensively; I think it's still on Netflix.

Jonathan
How fabulous though, will have to check out the film too.

Now you mention electrical gremlins, that rings a bell for some reason as to why they had a reputation for being troublesome.

Why was it so dull to drive? Just a big heavy lump dumped in a car and nothing tweaked around it to make it feel lively?

Re: Top 5 grey German cars ranked

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:48 am
by Ascender
Rich B wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:51 pm
Ascender wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:55 pm I now feel "seen" as the youth say.

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What do you think of it btw? Apart from it being an absolute hooligan if you want it to be.

Re: Top 5 grey German cars ranked

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:33 am
by Rich B
Ascender wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:48 am
Rich B wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:51 pm
Ascender wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:55 pm I now feel "seen" as the youth say.

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What do you think of it btw? Apart from it being an absolute hooligan if you want it to be.
I love it, I was a little concerned over winter that it wasn't that sharp handling and couldn't get its power down, but that's just the tyres, which are 100% summer tyres.

It's very quick when you want it to be but not as quick responding at normal driving revs as the e92 was, you kind of have to give it everything if was want it to go quickly, which is not really as I expected from the twin turbo set up but I suppose the e92 was still a big V8.

Difficult to describe, but I particularly like the way it seems to pivot around the centre of the car when cornering quick on the edge of traction, the pivot point on my e92 M3 definitely felt further forward with the rear swinging round more which was not as confidence inspiring. The handling is definitely the highlight for me.

It's averaged 26mpg which is decent enough (I do lots of dull commuting miles with the odd blast whenever road conditions allow) , and it can do 30+ on a run, but it's pretty low geared and over 70mph it does pretty crap mpg!

Re: Top 5 grey German cars ranked

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:36 am
by drcarlos
scotta wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:45 pm
drcarlos wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:06 pm
scotta wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:23 pm So...Not a fan of grey then?
The worst no soul, no imagination colour ever. It's utter dogshite, goes for homes decorated in grey too (reminds me of a doctors waiting room and not a home).
We've painted our cinema room Grey...
A single room you can get a pass with, its these places you walk into and it's room to room grey.

At least a can of paint is only £30 and it's easy to change in a weekend. £60k on a grey car is a different proposition.

Re: Top 5 grey German cars ranked

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:31 pm
by Ascender
Rich B wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:33 am
Ascender wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:48 am
Rich B wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:51 pm snap!

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What do you think of it btw? Apart from it being an absolute hooligan if you want it to be.
I love it, I was a little concerned over winter that it wasn't that sharp handling and couldn't get its power down, but that's just the tyres, which are 100% summer tyres.

It's very quick when you want it to be but not as quick responding at normal driving revs as the e92 was, you kind of have to give it everything if was want it to go quickly, which is not really as I expected from the twin turbo set up but I suppose the e92 was still a big V8.

Difficult to describe, but I particularly like the way it seems to pivot around the centre of the car when cornering quick on the edge of traction, the pivot point on my e92 M3 definitely felt further forward with the rear swinging round more which was not as confidence inspiring. The handling is definitely the highlight for me.

It's averaged 26mpg which is decent enough (I do lots of dull commuting miles with the odd blast whenever road conditions allow) , and it can do 30+ on a run, but it's pretty low geared and over 70mph it does pretty crap mpg!
What tyres are you running in the winter months?

I've found that as I can pretty easily get the tyres scrabbling for grip in the dry, that I might want to put something with more grip on it from late Autumn.

I agree about the handling, it seems incredibly well balanced and a lot of fun the more I get used to the feel of it. Still getting the hang of 1st and reverse on the DSG box - seems very on/off at low speed and sometimes its like the clutch isn't engaging properly when I've just got in it and am pulling off the driveway.

Re: Top 5 grey German cars ranked

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:05 pm
by Rich B
Ascender wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:31 pm
Rich B wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:33 am
Ascender wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:48 am

What do you think of it btw? Apart from it being an absolute hooligan if you want it to be.
I love it, I was a little concerned over winter that it wasn't that sharp handling and couldn't get its power down, but that's just the tyres, which are 100% summer tyres.

It's very quick when you want it to be but not as quick responding at normal driving revs as the e92 was, you kind of have to give it everything if was want it to go quickly, which is not really as I expected from the twin turbo set up but I suppose the e92 was still a big V8.

Difficult to describe, but I particularly like the way it seems to pivot around the centre of the car when cornering quick on the edge of traction, the pivot point on my e92 M3 definitely felt further forward with the rear swinging round more which was not as confidence inspiring. The handling is definitely the highlight for me.

It's averaged 26mpg which is decent enough (I do lots of dull commuting miles with the odd blast whenever road conditions allow) , and it can do 30+ on a run, but it's pretty low geared and over 70mph it does pretty crap mpg!
What tyres are you running in the winter months?

I've found that as I can pretty easily get the tyres scrabbling for grip in the dry, that I might want to put something with more grip on it from late Autumn.

I agree about the handling, it seems incredibly well balanced and a lot of fun the more I get used to the feel of it. Still getting the hang of 1st and reverse on the DSG box - seems very on/off at low speed and sometimes its like the clutch isn't engaging properly when I've just got in it and am pulling off the driveway.
mines on supersports - Mik has suggested a decent all round alternative that I can't remember!

Mines a manual, so not much help with DSG quirks.

Re: Top 5 grey German cars ranked

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:17 pm
by McSwede
Rich B wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:05 pm
Ascender wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:31 pm
Rich B wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:33 am I love it, I was a little concerned over winter that it wasn't that sharp handling and couldn't get its power down, but that's just the tyres, which are 100% summer tyres.

It's very quick when you want it to be but not as quick responding at normal driving revs as the e92 was, you kind of have to give it everything if was want it to go quickly, which is not really as I expected from the twin turbo set up but I suppose the e92 was still a big V8.

Difficult to describe, but I particularly like the way it seems to pivot around the centre of the car when cornering quick on the edge of traction, the pivot point on my e92 M3 definitely felt further forward with the rear swinging round more which was not as confidence inspiring. The handling is definitely the highlight for me.

It's averaged 26mpg which is decent enough (I do lots of dull commuting miles with the odd blast whenever road conditions allow) , and it can do 30+ on a run, but it's pretty low geared and over 70mph it does pretty crap mpg!
What tyres are you running in the winter months?

I've found that as I can pretty easily get the tyres scrabbling for grip in the dry, that I might want to put something with more grip on it from late Autumn.

I agree about the handling, it seems incredibly well balanced and a lot of fun the more I get used to the feel of it. Still getting the hang of 1st and reverse on the DSG box - seems very on/off at low speed and sometimes its like the clutch isn't engaging properly when I've just got in it and am pulling off the driveway.
mines on supersports - Mik has suggested a decent all round alternative that I can't remember!

Mines a manual, so not much help with DSG quirks.

Goodyear Eagle F1 supersports were a great upgrade from MPSS on my M140i

Re: Top 5 grey German cars ranked

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:41 pm
by Ascender
McSwede wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:17 pm Goodyear Eagle F1 supersports were a great upgrade from MPSS on my M140i
Thanks, I might try a set of those in the autumn. And possibly some winter wheels given the big fatty ones which are on the rear of this.

Re: Top 5 grey German cars ranked

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:57 pm
by IanF
Ascender wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:41 pm
McSwede wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:17 pm Goodyear Eagle F1 supersports were a great upgrade from MPSS on my M140i
Thanks, I might try a set of those in the autumn. And possibly some winter wheels given the big fatty ones which are on the rear of this.
M4 is on MPS4S after SS; much better traction overall, although I think the SS were slightly better new when it’s dry and over 10oC.. winter/cold, I just tend to loosen the traction control and let the tyres over-rotate.. 😉

Re: Top 5 grey German cars ranked

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:49 pm
by Ascender
Rich B wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:33 am It's very quick when you want it to be but not as quick responding at normal driving revs as the e92 was, you kind of have to give it everything if was want it to go quickly, which is not really as I expected from the twin turbo set up but I suppose the e92 was still a big V8.
The more I drive it, that's exactly the thing I'm finding. If you really want to go fast for an overtake, you have to absolutely nail the accelerator down and control any loss of traction. Its almost like turbo lag, but not.

I've done some reading on the DCT box and the things I've found with it when crawling and reverse are to be expected. Which seems strange given my M5 Touring was the same and that was 18 year old tech at the time.

I really need to drive an M3/M4 now to see how that compares, particularly before I end up at the point of no return on the Touring.