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Re: Interesting Cosworth Auction
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:46 pm
by Jobbo
Rich B wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:32 pm
I thought we'd established the story? It's a motorsport shell built up by BBR with a load of RS500 parts.
That’s what the ad says, but there’s no paperwork to back it up and why on earth wasn’t it registered?
Finding the origin of the shell and engine from the VIN and engine numbers would be the first step, but whoever currently owns it hasn’t done that, nor registered it. Instead they’ve upped the power. Very odd.
Re: Interesting Cosworth Auction
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:04 am
by nuttinnew
Re: Interesting Cosworth Auction
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:32 am
by Rich B
You know how I always say I hate dark red cars. I like the colour of that Cossie.
Re: Interesting Cosworth Auction
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:14 am
by integrale_evo
I think it looks awful, white or black for me please, even the grey they do has a bit too much blue in it for my liking.
Re: Interesting Cosworth Auction
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:09 pm
by Matty
I always thought the Sierra Cossie was a terrible looking car

Looks better in the darker colours. £65k for an imported car with 100k on the clock

Re: Interesting Cosworth Auction
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:16 pm
by mik
integrale_evo wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:14 am
I think it looks awful, white or black for me please,
even the grey they do has a bit too much blue in it for my liking.
It’s Moonstone Blue

(and it is the best colour for a Cossie)
Re: Interesting Cosworth Auction
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:03 pm
by integrale_evo
I thought it was moonstone grey

anyway, that’ll be why I don’t like it, I hate wishywashy blueish colours.
Re: Interesting Cosworth Auction
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:13 pm
by Rich B
Silverstone 2 is a wishy washy blue - and I loved it!
There was a bluer bmw colour that was used on the lesser models that was a bit lame though.
Re: Interesting Cosworth Auction
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:17 pm
by ZedLeg
Matty wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:09 pm
I always thought the Sierra Cossie was a terrible looking car

Looks better in the darker colours. £65k for an imported car with 100k on the clock
When you compare it to what else was around at the time it’s not the best looking. E30 M3, 190E Cosworth etc.
Great engine though, can’t argue with the pedigree.
Re: Interesting Cosworth Auction
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:14 pm
by scotta
G16NNH 09-04-2021 16:45:30
With no documentation and no vin number I take it this would be registered as a Q plate on completion of an iva or would it actually be allowed to be registered as a road car as they’ve used a motorsport shell with no original I.d Is there any paper work or receipts to prove date of build as these questions will all be asked upon registering it.
THE MARKET
Dunno Mate...
These are the same lot that were selling that bent elise a while ago and kept deleting the comments.
Re: Interesting Cosworth Auction
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:27 pm
by mik
That sounds reassuring enough - have placed a bid.

Re: Interesting Cosworth Auction
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:50 pm
by Jobbo
I hadn't realised that a motorsport shell meant no VIN plate. I don't think there's a hope of it getting anything but a Q plate when it has no VIN. I guess Motorsport shells would have been sold to re-shell an existing registered car after a trip into the trees, so they'd have been a new part to attach to an existing VIN plate.
Re: Interesting Cosworth Auction
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:41 pm
by integrale_evo
Rich B wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:13 pm
Silverstone 2 is a wishy washy blue - and I loved it!
There was a bluer bmw colour that was used on the lesser models that was a bit lame though.
The one colour I would absolutely refuse to buy a car in even if it was the best example by miles

Re: Interesting Cosworth Auction
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:31 pm
by integrale_evo
Actually the picture hadn’t loaded when I replied, I assumed it was going to be the e46 / 39 version which is the one I really don’t like

Re: Interesting Cosworth Auction
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:22 am
by Simon
integrale_evo wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:31 pm
Actually the picture hadn’t loaded when I replied, I assumed it was going to be the e46 / 39 version which is the one I really don’t like
Are you on dial-up or something?
Re: Interesting Cosworth Auction
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:52 am
by Jimexpl
Jobbo wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:50 pm
I hadn't realised that a motorsport shell meant no VIN plate. I don't think there's a hope of it getting anything but a Q plate when it has no VIN. I guess Motorsport shells would have been sold to re-shell an existing registered car after a trip into the trees, so they'd have been a new part to attach to an existing VIN plate.
It used to be pretty common. As a kid in the early 90s down the road from my grandparents I remember new Sierra shells stacked up outside Graham Goodes, and no VIN was the norm.
Engines were similar - straight six Maseratis in the 60s used to break all the time and new engines (competition and road car) were shipped with blank IDs for the dealer to stamp.
Re: Interesting Cosworth Auction
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:37 am
by Rich B
integrale_evo wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:31 pm
Actually the picture hadn’t loaded when I replied, I assumed it was going to be the e46 / 39 version which is the one I really don’t like
it's ok, my e46 was blue too...

Re: Interesting Cosworth Auction
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:25 am
by ZedLeg
Simon wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:22 am
integrale_evo wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:31 pm
Actually the picture hadn’t loaded when I replied, I assumed it was going to be the e46 / 39 version which is the one I really don’t like
Are you on dial-up or something?
IIRC Harry is in rural Norfolk, I'm impressed he has electricity.
Re: Interesting Cosworth Auction
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:36 am
by integrale_evo
Rural Norfolk on mobile data

Re: Interesting Cosworth Auction
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:55 am
by Sundayjumper
NFN !