Car browsing after a few cans.

[Sundayjumper]

The old "just swap the engine" routine again.

Yeah. Put an LS motor in. Piece of piss !

[integrale_evo]

I thought the 190 engine was meant to be a bit shit anyway, or can the switchover point be fiddled with using aftermarket stuff to change a bit earlier and make it a bit more useful?

[mr_jon]

Not sure about 'a bit shit', it's a good engine. Some big-wig at Toyota engineering named it when asked what was their biggest achievement in an engine.

However not many make 189bhp at the fly when tested; the early JDM engines are about the only ones that do.

[speedingfine]

The old "just swap the engine" routine again.

Yeah. Put an LS motor in. Piece of piss !

You mean you've never heard of a SARD MC-8? Oh, not that LS...

https://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsport ... -heard-of/

[mr_jon]

Pretty cool, you'd hope the race cars were less of a lash-up than that! I guess they just chucked it together to satisfy the regs.

[speedingfine]

It's not a looker is it But clearly a pretty herculean effort to start at Le Mans at all

2ZZ is by all accounts pretty reliable. Has anyone here had the NA version in an Elise? Every prick compares it to the B18C6 so it gets a bad rap.

[Rich B]

It's not a looker is it But clearly a pretty herculean effort to start at Le Mans at all

2ZZ is by all accounts pretty reliable. Has anyone here had the NA version in an Elise? Every prick compares it to the B18C6 so it gets a bad rap.

But an NA Elise is at least faster than my wife's middle of the range diesel estate.

[speedingfine]

Are you saying a sports car not a sports car if it's doesn't have a pwr of above say 164bhp/tonne (original Elise) What is the RichB cut-off figure

[Rich B]

Are you saying a sports car not a sports car if it's doesn't have a pwr of above say 164bhp/tonne (original Elise) What is the RichB cut-off figure

Im sure it's good fun to Chuck around a corner, but I don't get how they can make something light with a decent sized engine accelerate so slow. Is it really high geared or something?

[speedingfine]

Fair enough Rich, most of the 0-60 calculators come out at 6.6 seconds to 60 for that PWR.

[Rich B]

Fair enough Rich, most of the 0-60 calculators come out at 6.6 seconds to 60 for that PWR.

I think we're talking slightly at odds.

I'm saying a standard MR2 with 140bhp is lame.

Though if I was going to all the hassle/expense of an engine swap to a 190 in a lightweight MR2 I'd want it to be faster than a standard CTR.

[speedingfine]

The 190 engine in the MR2 comes out at 5.1 to 60...

[Mito Man]

An automotive test an automotive test my kingdom for an automotive test.

[Rich B]

An automotive test an automotive test my kingdom for an automotive test.

this!

[Rich B]

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/used ... ying-guide

[Rich B]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.evo. ... pecs%3famp

[integrale_evo]

Not sure about 'a bit shit', it's a good engine. Some big-wig at Toyota engineering named it when asked what was their biggest achievement in an engine.

However not many make 189bhp at the fly when tested; the early JDM engines are about the only ones that do.

Maybe shit is a bit harsh, I seem to remember them criticising the lack of midrange and the cam switchover being like one of the older vtecs where you had to smash it to the redline constantly or it would drop out of the power when you changed gear.

[Zonda_]

So now my drunken browsing have me looking at M135is, one car to do both jobs...

[Sundayjumper]

So now my drunken browsing have me looking at M135is, one car to do both jobs...

You’re drunk at 9am on a Monday ? Lucky chap !!

[scotta]

So now my drunken browsing have me looking at M135is, one car to do both jobs...

I would not let a 17 year old that had just passed his test out on track in an M135i!!