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Re: Long term changes of COVID 19

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:05 pm
by integrale_evo
Well a lot of the general public seem to have discovered the countryside since they've been told to stay in so wonder if that will last.

Re: Long term changes of COVID 19

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:27 pm
by Ascender
integrale_evo wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:05 pmWell a lot of the general public seem to have discovered the countryside since they've been told to stay in so wonder if that will last.
I mean, that's just bizarre isn't it?

Re: Long term changes of COVID 19

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:36 am
by Jackleg
Ascender wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:23 pm I'd love to be optimistic about it, but having seen how people have behaved when it comes to panic buying and social distancing, go you honestly think the majority will learn anything???
Very much this. As has been previously established, people are idiots, a dose of the corona virus is unlikely to change this.

Re: Long term changes of COVID 19

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:25 am
by Nefarious
Maybe I'm just in pessimistic mode at the moment because quite a lot is shit, but I can quite realistically foresee some pretty unpleasant social/political changes on the back of this.

Not least, the state will become more authoritarian in some way shape or form. Inevitably, new "temporary" powers to restrict mass gatherings, incarcerate without charge, "postpone" elections, monitor and silence those spreading "misinformation" of social media etc etc will be *to some extent* misused, and undoubtedly will be retained for longer than is strictly necessary for pure medical reasons.

Trying hard not to come across as too tin-foil-hatty, but I'm just not buying into what seems to be the national perception that in the course of a few weeks the current Tory government has flipped from being a heartless, self-interested, xenophobic, isolationist, nepotistic and borderline corrupt old-boys club exclusively looking after the financial interests of itself and its most lucrative benefactors, to a responsible, caring, forward-looking, selfless, egalitarian organisation with the best interests of all of society at its heart.

Re: Long term changes of COVID 19

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:44 am
by Swervin_Mervin
Yep - get the tin-foil off yer head ;)

Re: Long term changes of COVID 19

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:27 am
by Mito Man
Excellent, I’m all for banning mass gatherings if it means no more climate change protests.

Re: Long term changes of COVID 19

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:25 pm
by Orange Cola
And fucking Karen passing shit off as fact on Facebook.

Re: Long term changes of COVID 19

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:07 pm
by simon_g
NotoriousREV wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:22 pm I think we’ll hopefully see a lot more businesses see WFH as normal and continue to let people do it as a matter of course.

Maybe it’ll help people value the right people in society more?

I suspect it’ll change people’s priorities, too. Hopefully more people will put living ahead of working.
This. More WFH and <40 hour jobs please. Needing to commute into an office and sit at a noisy row of desks 9-5 is bullshit.

Re: Long term changes of COVID 19

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:20 pm
by 16vCento
I WFH if I'm not travelling and I get pretty bored.

I get stuff done much faster than when in the office but i miss human interaction face to face, even if it's just a quick chat when getting a coffee.

Speaking of which, I've had no coffee since January and i now sleep like a baby and it's made me feel much better in general.

Not a bad step and new positive from been at home.

Re: Long term changes of COVID 19

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:15 pm
by Barry
simon_g wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:07 pm
NotoriousREV wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:22 pm I think we’ll hopefully see a lot more businesses see WFH as normal and continue to let people do it as a matter of course.

Maybe it’ll help people value the right people in society more?

I suspect it’ll change people’s priorities, too. Hopefully more people will put living ahead of working.
This. More WFH and <40 hour jobs please. Needing to commute into an office and sit at a noisy row of desks 9-5 is bullshit.
I'm actually using it as a motivational tool to keep my lot working, if we can prove WFH is workable then we stand a better chance of getting it rolled out for us all more permanently. I'd be quite happy with a couple days WFH during a working week.

Also, in spite of "gaining" an hour (from not commuting) I'm finding I'm still only doing similar hours per day, as I was from the office (still O/T as we've got schit to do, but still).

Re: Long term changes of COVID 19

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:00 am
by DeskJockey
Barry wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:15 pm
simon_g wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:07 pm
NotoriousREV wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:22 pm I think we’ll hopefully see a lot more businesses see WFH as normal and continue to let people do it as a matter of course.

Maybe it’ll help people value the right people in society more?

I suspect it’ll change people’s priorities, too. Hopefully more people will put living ahead of working.
This. More WFH and <40 hour jobs please. Needing to commute into an office and sit at a noisy row of desks 9-5 is bullshit.
I'm actually using it as a motivational tool to keep my lot working, if we can prove WFH is workable then we stand a better chance of getting it rolled out for us all more permanently. I'd be quite happy with a couple days WFH during a working week.

Also, in spite of "gaining" an hour (from not commuting) I'm finding I'm still only doing similar hours per day, as I was from the office (still O/T as we've got schit to do, but still).
WFH shouldn't be a way to work more hours. The time gained is yours, not your employer's. Keep to a schedule, take breaks, etc.

Re: Long term changes of COVID 19

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:59 am
by Sundayjumper
I must be one of the few people that doesn't like WFH.

I find I respond to the environment around me, so if I'm in an office of people focused on working, I focus on working. If I'm on my own I...... get distracted.

If this is going to become more of the norm I guess I will have to adapt.

Re: Long term changes of COVID 19

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:19 am
by dinny_g
I'm quite enjoying it at the moment and am way more efficient that I thought.

I did a year of pure full time work from home back in the day and really hated it. I knew I was in trouble when the Jehovah's Witness cold caller was obviously making excuses to get away from me. :lol:

However, even though I only live a few miles from work, I'd like to wfh more, maybe 2 days per week or afternoons.

Re: Long term changes of COVID 19

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:20 am
by NotoriousREV
Yeah, I like WFH for a day or 2, but beyond that it just feels like an imposition on my time and I just want to do my own thing.

Re: Long term changes of COVID 19

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:24 am
by Rich B
I’m better at WFH now, but I still prefer going to my office - I like my workmates!

Re: Long term changes of COVID 19

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:42 am
by dinny_g
Me too - some of them... :lol:

Re: Long term changes of COVID 19

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:59 am
by Beany
Sundayjumper wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:59 am I must be one of the few people that doesn't like WFH.

I find I respond to the environment around me, so if I'm in an office of people focused on working, I focus on working. If I'm on my own I...... get distracted.

If this is going to become more of the norm I guess I will have to adapt.
No, I'm the same - the isolation sends me out of my fucking tree.

I'm going to be taking enforced walks at lunchtime, because otherwise I'd literally be stuck in the house, all the time (no garden), except when food shopping.

Depression is a bitch.

Re: Long term changes of COVID 19

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:30 am
by 240PP
I’m used to WFH a few days a week so it’s no great shake up for me. We’re having a daily half hour video conference to talk shit about shit and so we still remember what we all look like.

One bloke refuses to put his camera on though which is a bit unnerving..

Re: Long term changes of COVID 19

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:37 am
by dinny_g
A few of us are holding off Video chat for a few weeks as we’re having a Beard—off :lol:

Re: Long term changes of COVID 19

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:55 am
by Barry
DeskJockey wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:00 am
Barry wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:15 pm
simon_g wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:07 pm

This. More WFH and <40 hour jobs please. Needing to commute into an office and sit at a noisy row of desks 9-5 is bullshit.
I'm actually using it as a motivational tool to keep my lot working, if we can prove WFH is workable then we stand a better chance of getting it rolled out for us all more permanently. I'd be quite happy with a couple days WFH during a working week.

Also, in spite of "gaining" an hour (from not commuting) I'm finding I'm still only doing similar hours per day, as I was from the office (still O/T as we've got schit to do, but still).
WFH shouldn't be a way to work more hours. The time gained is yours, not your employer's. Keep to a schedule, take breaks, etc.
I'm not looking at it as a way to do more hours, it's just taking more time to get VPN and such like stable so I can work. Most of my morning is firefighting issues with my team and catch-ups before I can actually do something constructive.