3DMark is very heavily scored based on graphics, so that'll impact the scores far more.
And a 9900k? Nice
Re: The slippery slope of pc gaming
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:53 pm
by Simon
I upgraded to a 9900KS a couple of weeks ago (IPC is king for Prepar3d). Also swapped my motherboard out for an Asus Rog Apex, as that listed compatibility with my 4000MHz memory, that's now running at full speed.
Just need to swap out my GTX 1080 for a 3080 when they launch next year.
Re: The slippery slope of pc gaming
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:54 pm
by integrale_evo
That was the slippery slope
I was looking at just a processor swap to a 7700k, but was looking at about £320, so in my head it wasn't a huge jump in price for the performance increase of the 9900.
The figures don't work so well when you add in a new cooler and motherboard..
I'm hoping it will last many many years!
Re: The slippery slope of pc gaming
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:00 pm
by integrale_evo
Had a rather worrying blackout when testing. Screen went blank, all fans went to max, no response to any input.
Thought I'd properly killed it. Then it dawned on me, the power supply might now be struggling
An online checker suggested my setup would draw 580w, so with some overclocking I think I reached the limit of my 600w psu.
A hard reset and everything back up and running fine, settings toned down a bit, new psu tomorrow thanks to amazon prime.
I now have nearly enough spares to build a decent 'spare' gaming pc
Re: The slippery slope of pc gaming
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:21 am
by integrale_evo
Slight issue, bought the pc down to use on the telly while I have lots of free time over Christmas, but couldn't for the life of me get any sound out of hdmi. Nvidia control panel identifies the wrong port being used on the card ( one of the display ports ) in the diagram but says it's connected by dvi.
A couple of days fiddling with settings, drivers, old drivers etc.
Then it dawned on me, maybe the palit bios I've flashed to my zotac cards to enable fan stop has a different port assignment.
Flash the original bios back to my main card and the sound starts working instantly, but unfortunately means the fans are running constantly too.
wonder if there are any other bios' with the same port assignment as my card but with a zero fan mode
Re: The slippery slope of pc gaming
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:32 pm
by Simon
Can you not control the fans with EVGA's X1 precision or similar?
Re: The slippery slope of pc gaming
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:02 pm
by integrale_evo
No, the minimum can speed is set by the bios, so you can only take it down that far. On my 1070ti mini the minimum is 37%, I guess to give it a bit of headroom because it's got a fairly modest size cooler.
However it's been fine without a fan at idle. It sits around 37c, with nothing else running except the cpu fan at 250rpm. I had set the fans to be off until 40c then ramp up pretty quickly above that so they kick in pretty much as soon as it sees any load.
Some of the other cards with bigger coolers used a silent fan off mode as a selling point.
Sadly you can't flash a non verified bios to 10 series cards, so you can't modify the original, only flash it with one from another manufacturers existing version.
Re: The slippery slope of pc gaming
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:21 pm
by Beany
integrale_evo wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:21 am
Slight issue, bought the pc down to use on the telly while I have lots of free time over Christmas, but couldn't for the life of me get any sound out of hdmi. Nvidia control panel identifies the wrong port being used on the card ( one of the display ports ) in the diagram but says it's connected by dvi.
A couple of days fiddling with settings, drivers, old drivers etc.
Then it dawned on me, maybe the palit bios I've flashed to my zotac cards to enable fan stop has a different port assignment.
Flash the original bios back to my main card and the sound starts working instantly, but unfortunately means the fans are running constantly too.
wonder if there are any other bios' with the same port assignment as my card but with a zero fan mode
Turn the telly up louder.
That'll be £75.
Re: The slippery slope of pc gaming
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:25 pm
by integrale_evo
It doesn't bother me where it is, but I'd like to find a permanent solution instead of having to swap the graphics card bios whenever I move it.
I'd not spotted it before because I usually have speakers connected to the motherboard output.
Re: The slippery slope of pc gaming
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:40 pm
by Beany
Fair enough.
I've been looking at used R5 2600Xs and 16gb of RAM and an AM4 mobo - for about £250 I can move to a damned near bleeding edge (in terms of IPC) platform that would realistically see me good for another few years, graphics card permitting - and as I mostly play retro, or retro-esque games where controls and feedback are more of an issue (GZDoom ports, games like Dusk and Maximum Action where the controls/feedback take precedence over visuals) the graphics aren't that much of a concern.
I may start looking at a platform upgrade soon.
Re: The slippery slope of pc gaming
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:57 pm
by integrale_evo
Unassuming plain black box, the front door, sides and removeable magnetic top cover are all sound deadened. Even the power on light is in stealth mode.
Pretty similar inside. Some of the wiring isn't ideal because I swapped the power supply after the rest of it was in. Could do with painting the DVD sides black too just because.
Fairly different to the style I went for when building one for a 15 year old
Re: The slippery slope of pc gaming
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:56 pm
by RobYob
The Disaster Area of PC's
Re: The slippery slope of pc gaming
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:15 pm
by Mito Man
The more RGB the faster the PC
*goes off to buy a RGB mousepad on Amazon*
Re: The slippery slope of pc gaming
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:59 am
by ShockDiamonds
Simon wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:53 pm
Just need to swap out my GTX 1080 for a 3080 when they launch next year.
Straight 1080 or Ti? Assume the former but if the latter, I’d be interested.
Simon wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:53 pm
Just need to swap out my GTX 1080 for a 3080 when they launch next year.
Straight 1080 or Ti? Assume the former but if the latter, I’d be interested.
Former I'm afraid... I never plump for the Ti's usually.
Re: The slippery slope of pc gaming
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:23 pm
by Richard
RobYob wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:21 pm
If you're not playing Dwarf Fortress in ASCII you're a lightweight.
I'd question if anyone bar the pros has the skill to make use of >60fps in a competitive FPS let alone a sim.
It will surely look nicely, but I'm deeply skeptical it gives you an advantage.
Allow Linus to show you
Re: The slippery slope of pc gaming
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:18 pm
by RobYob
Richard wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:23 pm
Allow Linus to show you
ok you can't get much more comprehensive than that.
Very enjoyable vid thanks.
