Oh and in response to the Pakistan and Bangladesh comment further up - we were originally talking about the dehumanisation/demonisation of "illegals" i.e. those who come by irregular transport routes, which doesn't tend to be Pakistanis and Bangladeshis.
Those guys tend to be expired student and work visa.
But regardless, asylum extends to religious or sectarian persecution too. We'll look after you if your life is in danger if you stay at home. That doesn't seem unreasonable.
Especially as former commonwealth countries who previously fought for the British empire, and whose current problems of religious intolerance have at least some of their origins in British colonial policy (Indian Partition, in particular).
Bye bye Starmer
Re: Bye bye Starmer
"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough"
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But that's not a valid call back to your neighbour example. You neighbour's house burns down so you invite your neighbour to move into your house permanently - they will no longer attempt to house themselves - and you furthermore agree to be financially responsible for them, and their children, current and future, going forward.Nefarious wrote: Mon May 11, 2026 12:51 pm In my neighbour's house fire example, you wouldn't say they couldn't sleep on your living room floor because there wasn't enough food in the cupboard or enough poo roll in the downstairs cloakroom - you'd pop to the shops!
I like my neighbour but not that much
And I take it that when you say "You'd pop to the shops", you mean "Tax the Rich"