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Re: The House Projects Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:34 pm
by Jobbo
GG. wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:10 pm
Jobbo wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:10 pm
Carlos wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:01 pm If the works need doing and you end up paying for it all can you put a charge on their property?
In theory yes, but in practice it may be quicker and easier to go for forfeiture of their lease and a possession order.
This may be a stupid question for a lawyer, even of a different stripe (and likely justifies my old Oxford tutor's observation that "you seem to struggle with any examination with a property aspect...") but on forefeiture is the lessee who loses his interest entitled to compensation for the loss of residual value of the reversionary interest (probably not the correct term...)?

I haven't read the above carefully enough to determine if the intransigent neighbours are owners of a long leasehold (i.e. effectively a half million quid asset), or short - but assuming the former and the lease reverts to the freeholder without compensation for market value then our Gav might be in for a huge windfall...

Seems like an inequitable (from a legal, rather than moral, in this case!) result to me, hence the question.
No - there is no further property interest to have a value once forfeited. The tenant will be given many, many opportunities to avoid forfeiture before a court will grant it but it does happen. My old trainee forfeited a long lease of a flat in north London where the tenant objected to paying service charge. The tenant was a barrister ๐Ÿ˜‚

Re: The House Projects Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:19 am
by Gavster
Jobbo wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:34 pm
No - there is no further property interest to have a value once forfeited. The tenant will be given many, many opportunities to avoid forfeiture before a court will grant it but it does happen. My old trainee forfeited a long lease of a flat in north London where the tenant objected to paying service charge. The tenant was a barrister ๐Ÿ˜‚
It's a weird dynamic, the crux of whether a property goes to forfeiture or not seems to be based largely upon the tenant's extreme levels of stubbornness. There is no way - literally it would be impossible - to ever reach the vicinity of forfeiture when dealing with a remotely reasonable person.

Re: The House Projects Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:44 pm
by Explosive Newt
Returned home from the rather excellent meet today and beheld our competed joinery project. Bookcases and wardrobes in our bedroom.

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Re: The House Projects Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:48 pm
by GG.
Looks excellent!

Re: The House Projects Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:33 pm
by DeskJockey
Very jealous of those bookcases. That looks lovely.

Re: The House Projects Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:51 pm
by mik
I can see a wall of Mrs mik shoe storage, but where is the bookshelf?

Re: The House Projects Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 8:41 am
by DeskJockey
mik wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:51 pm I can see a wall of Mrs mik shoe storage, but where is the bookshelf?
Can't be shoe storage. There are no velvet cushions or focus lighting.

Re: The House Projects Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 12:43 pm
by Gavster
Looks lovely! Beautifully done.

Whatโ€™s with the stripes in the carpet? Has it been hoovered in different directions to look like that?

Re: The House Projects Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 1:35 pm
by duncs500
๐Ÿ‘ŒNicely done.

Re: The House Projects Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 3:18 pm
by Explosive Newt
Gavster wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 12:43 pm Looks lovely! Beautifully done.

Whatโ€™s with the stripes in the carpet? Has it been hoovered in different directions to look like that?
No idea, itโ€™s not normally stripey! The joiners hoovered up after they finished and clearly gave a powerful hoover! Or are missing a calling as groundskeepers.

Re: The House Projects Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 3:52 pm
by Mito Man
Looks nice, as for the stripes donโ€™t some car detailers charge good money for that ๐Ÿ˜‚

Re: The House Projects Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:22 pm
by Rich B
I dread to think how much that cost - it does look very well done though!

Re: The House Projects Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:53 pm
by Explosive Newt
Rich B wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:22 pm I dread to think how much that cost - it does look very well done though!
Let me put it this way, it has set the Porsche fund back a considerable way.

Man maths: I now save the money we were paying to keep all our books in storage.

I think worth it to get it professionally done. Measuring around the complex roofline was painstaking but the fit is amazing.

Re: The House Projects Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 2:06 pm
by Ascender
Explosive Newt wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:44 pm Returned home from the rather excellent meet today and beheld our competed joinery project. Bookcases and wardrobes in our bedroom.


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They look amazing! I can only imagine the expense but look well worth it.

Pictures are filed in our house ideas folder, thanks!

Re: The House Projects Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:18 pm
by Shlergen
Very nice, I'd say they were happy with results, made carpet look good for photos to use for future jobs ๐Ÿ˜€

Re: The House Projects Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:23 pm
by GG.
Explosive Newt wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:53 pm
Rich B wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:22 pm I dread to think how much that cost - it does look very well done though!
Let me put it this way, it has set the Porsche fund back a considerable way.

Man maths: I now save the money we were paying to keep all our books in storage.

I think worth it to get it professionally done. Measuring around the complex roofline was painstaking but the fit is amazing.
Who did you use out of interest?

Re: The House Projects Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:38 pm
by Explosive Newt
GG. wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:23 pm
Explosive Newt wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:53 pm
Rich B wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:22 pm I dread to think how much that cost - it does look very well done though!
Let me put it this way, it has set the Porsche fund back a considerable way.

Man maths: I now save the money we were paying to keep all our books in storage.

I think worth it to get it professionally done. Measuring around the complex roofline was painstaking but the fit is amazing.
Who did you use out of interest?
Lark Valley Woodcraft - https://www.larkvalleywoodcraft.co.uk/
(mostly because one of the partners in the company is married to a nurse at work!)
I see we made it onto their insta feed

The metalwork for the ladder was from https://llcompany.co.uk/

Re: The House Projects Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:50 pm
by Explosive Newt
Shlergen wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:18 pm Very nice, I'd say they were happy with results, made carpet look good for photos to use for future jobs ๐Ÿ˜€
They have an instagram account with all their work on it, which I will admit is one reason we chose them as it all looks tremendous.

Re: The House Projects Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 5:16 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
Very nice!

It's a shame we don't live in Suffolk (although we do keep looking) as we're looking at potentially something similar in our box/study room which is fairly small and over the stairs. Need to find someone that does similar up here.

Re: The House Projects Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 5:25 pm
by JonMad
Nicely done, that looks great. Top effort on the carpet by them too!