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Re: The House Projects Thread
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:34 pm
by Jobbo
GG. wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:10 pm
Jobbo wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:10 pm
Carlos wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:01 pm
If the works need doing and you end up paying for it all can you put a charge on their property?
In theory yes, but in practice it may be quicker and easier to go for forfeiture of their lease and a possession order.
This may be a stupid question for a lawyer, even of a different stripe (and likely justifies my old Oxford tutor's observation that "you seem to struggle with any examination with a property aspect...") but on forefeiture is the lessee who loses his interest entitled to compensation for the loss of residual value of the reversionary interest (probably not the correct term...)?
I haven't read the above carefully enough to determine if the intransigent neighbours are owners of a long leasehold (i.e. effectively a half million quid asset), or short - but assuming the former and the lease reverts to the freeholder without compensation for market value then our Gav might be in for a huge windfall...
Seems like an inequitable (from a legal, rather than moral, in this case!) result to me, hence the question.
No - there is no further property interest to have a value once forfeited. The tenant will be given many, many opportunities to avoid forfeiture before a court will grant it but it does happen. My old trainee forfeited a long lease of a flat in north London where the tenant objected to paying service charge. The tenant was a barrister

Re: The House Projects Thread
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:19 am
by Gavster
Jobbo wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:34 pm
No - there is no further property interest to have a value once forfeited. The tenant will be given many, many opportunities to avoid forfeiture before a court will grant it but it does happen. My old trainee forfeited a long lease of a flat in north London where the tenant objected to paying service charge. The tenant was a barrister
It's a weird dynamic, the crux of whether a property goes to forfeiture or not seems to be based largely upon the tenant's extreme levels of stubbornness. There is no way - literally it would be impossible - to ever reach the vicinity of forfeiture when dealing with a remotely reasonable person.
Re: The House Projects Thread
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:44 pm
by Explosive Newt
Returned home from the rather excellent meet today and beheld our competed joinery project. Bookcases and wardrobes in our bedroom.

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Re: The House Projects Thread
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:48 pm
by GG.
Looks excellent!
Re: The House Projects Thread
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:33 pm
by DeskJockey
Very jealous of those bookcases. That looks lovely.
Re: The House Projects Thread
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:51 pm
by mik
I can see a wall of Mrs mik shoe storage, but where is the bookshelf?
Re: The House Projects Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 8:41 am
by DeskJockey
mik wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:51 pm
I can see a wall of Mrs mik shoe storage, but where is the bookshelf?
Can't be shoe storage. There are no velvet cushions or focus lighting.
Re: The House Projects Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 12:43 pm
by Gavster
Looks lovely! Beautifully done.
Whatโs with the stripes in the carpet? Has it been hoovered in different directions to look like that?
Re: The House Projects Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 1:35 pm
by duncs500

Nicely done.
Re: The House Projects Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 3:18 pm
by Explosive Newt
Gavster wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 12:43 pm
Looks lovely! Beautifully done.
Whatโs with the stripes in the carpet? Has it been hoovered in different directions to look like that?
No idea, itโs not normally stripey! The joiners hoovered up after they finished and clearly gave a powerful hoover! Or are missing a calling as groundskeepers.
Re: The House Projects Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 3:52 pm
by Mito Man
Looks nice, as for the stripes donโt some car detailers charge good money for that

Re: The House Projects Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:22 pm
by Rich B
I dread to think how much that cost - it does look very well done though!
Re: The House Projects Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:53 pm
by Explosive Newt
Rich B wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:22 pm
I dread to think how much that cost - it does look very well done though!
Let me put it this way, it has set the Porsche fund back a considerable way.
Man maths: I now save the money we were paying to keep all our books in storage.
I think worth it to get it professionally done. Measuring around the complex roofline was painstaking but the fit is amazing.
Re: The House Projects Thread
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 2:06 pm
by Ascender
Explosive Newt wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:44 pm
Returned home from the rather excellent meet today and beheld our competed joinery project. Bookcases and wardrobes in our bedroom.
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They look amazing! I can only imagine the expense but look well worth it.
Pictures are filed in our house ideas folder, thanks!
Re: The House Projects Thread
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:18 pm
by Shlergen
Very nice, I'd say they were happy with results, made carpet look good for photos to use for future jobs

Re: The House Projects Thread
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:23 pm
by GG.
Explosive Newt wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:53 pm
Rich B wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:22 pm
I dread to think how much that cost - it does look very well done though!
Let me put it this way, it has set the Porsche fund back a considerable way.
Man maths: I now save the money we were paying to keep all our books in storage.
I think worth it to get it professionally done. Measuring around the complex roofline was painstaking but the fit is amazing.
Who did you use out of interest?
Re: The House Projects Thread
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:38 pm
by Explosive Newt
GG. wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:23 pm
Explosive Newt wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:53 pm
Rich B wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:22 pm
I dread to think how much that cost - it does look very well done though!
Let me put it this way, it has set the Porsche fund back a considerable way.
Man maths: I now save the money we were paying to keep all our books in storage.
I think worth it to get it professionally done. Measuring around the complex roofline was painstaking but the fit is amazing.
Who did you use out of interest?
Lark Valley Woodcraft -
https://www.larkvalleywoodcraft.co.uk/
(mostly because one of the partners in the company is married to a nurse at work!)
I see we made it onto their insta feed
The metalwork for the ladder was from
https://llcompany.co.uk/
Re: The House Projects Thread
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:50 pm
by Explosive Newt
Shlergen wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:18 pm
Very nice, I'd say they were happy with results, made carpet look good for photos to use for future jobs
They have an instagram account with all their work on it, which I will admit is one reason we chose them as it all looks tremendous.
Re: The House Projects Thread
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 5:16 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
Very nice!
It's a shame we don't live in Suffolk (although we do keep looking) as we're looking at potentially something similar in our box/study room which is fairly small and over the stairs. Need to find someone that does similar up here.
Re: The House Projects Thread
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 5:25 pm
by JonMad
Nicely done, that looks great. Top effort on the carpet by them too!