Interesting that they tried to get the Tesla up the ramp, but had to resort to lifting it onto the flat bed. There’s rumours of heat soak issues, but I doubt we’ll ever know for sure.
Taycan looks good in that green.
Re: Porsche Taycan first drive - Fully Charged
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:34 am
by RobYob
EV's can throw a massive tantrum if they are towed so the instruction to the driver may have been it simply cannot be towed at all.
Or it just broke something more fundamental like a driveshaft.
Not sure how rumours of heat soak correlate with the 7:20 lap?
Looking forward to seeing a Taycan in the metal, 50mm lower than a Panamera sounds very promising.
Re: Porsche Taycan first drive - Fully Charged
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:38 am
by Rich B
RobYob wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:34 amNot sure how rumours of heat soak correlate with the 7:20 lap?
RobYob wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:34 amNot sure how rumours of heat soak correlate with the 7:20 lap?
The imaginary lap?
I'd guess they are estimating from sector times.
You know, in the same way I can run a four minute mile, if I take all the times I sprinted for ten seconds before collapsing in a sweating gasping heap, cut the sweating gasping parts off, and added them together.
Re: Porsche Taycan first drive - Fully Charged
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:51 am
by Rich B
Rich B wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:05 pm
As for hand timed times, presumably they know they aren’t allowed to do timed whole runs, so it’s probably made up of several parts - which combining into one long run is half the challenge for electric cars I thought.
RobYob wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:34 amNot sure how rumours of heat soak correlate with the 7:20 lap?
The imaginary lap?
I'd guess they are estimating from sector times.
You know, in the same way I can run a four minute mile, if I take all the times I sprinted for ten seconds before collapsing in a sweating gasping heap, cut the sweating gasping parts off, and added them together.
Actually I thought it was hand timed during industry pool where official timing is not allowed.
Rich B wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:38 am
The imaginary lap?
I'd guess they are estimating from sector times.
You know, in the same way I can run a four minute mile, if I take all the times I sprinted for ten seconds before collapsing in a sweating gasping heap, cut the sweating gasping parts off, and added them together.
Actually I thought it was hand timed during industry pool where official timing is not allowed.
But y'know conspiracy theories are cool too.
its not really a conspiracy theory - they tried to do a fast lap and failed. I can’t turn up at the olypics and tell Usain Bolt that I have run a 9 second 100m at home so I win!
Re: Porsche Taycan first drive - Fully Charged
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:15 am
by Beany
Wot Rich said. Tesla claim to have improved their BMS, but there's no evidence of that, and they have previously had massive issues with consistent hard use.
It's literally Occams razor; without evidence of a massive upgrade in battery management tech, it makes more sense to assume they're bully bullshitting; that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Now, if they release some video footage of it managing a whole lap, that'd be different.
Re: Porsche Taycan first drive - Fully Charged
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:22 am
by Rich B
I like Tesla and their fuck you approach to the car industry, but turning up at the ring with a modified car on a day you can’t do timed runs and claiming production car records is just silly.
Re: Porsche Taycan first drive - Fully Charged
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:28 am
by Swervin_Mervin
Have they claimed? Or have they just said "we think we can do"? There is a difference.
Re: Porsche Taycan first drive - Fully Charged
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:30 am
by NotoriousREV
I think some magazine claimed it and the internet spread it. I don't think Tesla have said anything.
Re: Porsche Taycan first drive - Fully Charged
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:32 am
by Swervin_Mervin
Re: Porsche Taycan first drive - Fully Charged
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:34 am
by NotoriousREV
Ah, I'd missed that, I'd only seen the magazine claim. That's just a made-up theoretical guess.
You know, in the same way I can run a four minute mile, if I take all the times I sprinted for ten seconds before collapsing in a sweating gasping heap, cut the sweating gasping parts off, and added them together.
Actually I thought it was hand timed during industry pool where official timing is not allowed.
But y'know conspiracy theories are cool too.
its not really a conspiracy theory - they tried to do a fast lap and failed. I can’t turn up at the olypics and tell Usain Bolt that I have run a 9 second 100m at home so I win!
So all the independent witnesses to their i-pool times are conspiring to mislead the internet.
Actually I thought it was hand timed during industry pool where official timing is not allowed.
But y'know conspiracy theories are cool too.
its not really a conspiracy theory - they tried to do a fast lap and failed. I can’t turn up at the olypics and tell Usain Bolt that I have run a 9 second 100m at home so I win!
So all the independent witnesses to their i-pool times are conspiring to mislead the internet.
Sounds vaguely conspiratorial to me.
they’re journalists/bloggers looking for a big/shocking story (and getting one).
Re: Porsche Taycan first drive - Fully Charged
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:46 pm
by Barry
I do like this car.
Re: Porsche Taycan first drive - Fully Charged
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:00 pm
by JonMad
Nice video. Useful, in Jonny's typical style. Not too much said about the handling but enough I guess.
Re: Porsche Taycan first drive - Fully Charged
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:47 am
by Beany
Not Taycan related, but I suppose this could just be the general 'relaxed electric car thread', seeing as FC is a pretty laid back show.
So, MG ZS electric?
Cheap, decent range, available, perfectly reasonable build quality, 90s warm hatch performance - sounds like a perfectly valid piece of white goods.
