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Meh, I fitted a 6 foot freezer in an Audi a3...

The RR is a Lovely car to have - and as daft as it sounds, great for driving round the city. Though stop start traffic is AWFUL for mpg.

GG. wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 12:59 pm Range Rover has passed one year in my ownership.

All in cost has probably been near £15,000 which is erm... sobering.

Rich B wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 3:52 pm Meh, I fitted a 6 foot freezer in an Audi a3...

We had a small fridge in the centre console of mrs mik’s Disco3 Metropolis. Some folks are just fixated on one-upmanship.

GG. wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 12:59 pm ...disastrously expensive when you consider depreciation. I think it has lost something like 1,000 a month...

My personal rule of thumb, on the kind of shitheaps I can afford, is £1k per year. I'd feel physically sick at £12k/year.

Yes I think that is a reasonable requirement to set. Though don’t you have 10 cars all doing that

I’m itching to get another performance car but it would absolutely have to be depreciation free - there is no way I’d have two cars doing that. Particularly given anything else would have finance on it.

Tyres and consumables, plus a wheel bearing and 4 new air springs come to £7000 in 8 years and 80,000 miles. Not including tax and fuel.

It’s going nowhere soon.

Dave!

GG. wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:59 pm Though don’t you have 10 cars all doing that

Yeah but no, err, it's different, because, umm, the thing is...

Fcuk



(and I'm down to eight now)

The sensible answer is probably that although my fleet has gradually grown, it's also moved more towards older/lower depreciation cars. They inevitably need more repairs than your RR (which tbh I'm very impressed it hasn't given you random 4-figure repair bills on top of the depreciation) but I can mainly do those myself and can hunt out the best deals on parts etc. The newest car we have is my wife's MINI and that's a 2011; over ten years old now. Even the Vantage has fared surprisingly well, same segment as your 997 and I'll admit it was more luck than judgement here, but bought with low miles for £35k in 2007, it's still only on 29k miles and looking at Autotrader right now the cheapest Vantage under 30k miles is £33k. Knock off a bit for haggling or whatever and my £1k/year is pretty close. It's given me no surprising bills in that time. I'm pretty sure my 996 has actually gone up since I bought it (£13.5k in 2011). But others have been worse, obvs ! My E39 was a nightmare. We had a Mazda 6 that was a terrible decision - nothing went wrong but we bought high & sold low in quite a short period of time so the £/year was horrible. My latest MINI was cheap to buy, I've put money into it but I'm still only in for about £2k total and it should be worth more than that now. Hopefully I'll get a cheap couple of years out of that. I don't put a £ value on my time though. That would be a killer.

GG. wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:59 pm I’m itching to get another performance car but it would absolutely have to be depreciation free - there is no way I’d have two cars doing that.

I would suggest that it is a fool's errand, wanting to buy a depreciation-free performance car. If you want it, buy it, and just be prepared for some bills. If they don't happen then it's a win.

V8Granite wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:46 pm ...£7000 in 8 years...

This validates my £1k/year estimate (when you do your own spannering, obvs.)

If you keep cars for 8 years you’d hope the depreciation will be pretty sensible. I can never do that of course so my personal depreciation limit (which has been broken) was always ~£3k/yr if kept for 2 years. Since I do so many miles now I upped that to £5k/yr on the basis that I need something which is not going to require regular attention.

Boring though

Jobbo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:25 am If you keep cars for 8 years you’d hope the depreciation will be pretty sensible. I can never do that of course so my personal depreciation limit (which has been broken) was always ~£3k/yr if kept for 2 years. Since I do so many miles now I upped that to £5k/yr on the basis that I need something which is not going to require regular attention.

Boring though

When you buy the GLE63 you can make that 10k a year and offset the smiles against it

If you drive it properly you will be giving aural joy to others, just like Santa. Be like Santa Jobbo.

Dave!

Sundayjumper wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:22 pmEven the Vantage has fared surprisingly well, same segment as your 997 and I'll admit it was more luck than judgement here, but bought with low miles for £35k in 2007,

that can't be right, can it? You bought it when it was <2 years old for £35k?

V8Granite wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 7:23 am When you buy the GLE63 you can make that 10k a year and offset the smiles against it

If you drive it properly you will be giving aural joy to others, just like Santa. Be like Santa Jobbo.

Dave!

GLC63 was what I was thinking of, but having read the reviews the ride is way too hard despite air suspension so I think it'll be a no. Was thinking of a non-S without sports exhaust since I wouldn't want it to be too obvious anyway

For context, not having to pay £5k/yr for a train season ticket balances the depreciation now. My fuel costs are more than that in any case (44mpg, 30k miles, £1.70/litre is £5270) so perhaps I'll stick with a diesel for the moment.

Rich B wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 7:44 am

Sundayjumper wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:22 pmEven the Vantage has fared surprisingly well, same segment as your 997 and I'll admit it was more luck than judgement here, but bought with low miles for £35k in 2007,

that can't be right, can it? You bought it when it was <2 years old for £35k?

Typo, bought in 2017.

Sundayjumper wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:10 am

Rich B wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 7:44 am

Sundayjumper wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:22 pmEven the Vantage has fared surprisingly well, same segment as your 997 and I'll admit it was more luck than judgement here, but bought with low miles for £35k in 2007,

that can't be right, can it? You bought it when it was <2 years old for £35k?

Typo, bought in 2017.

Even that seems ages ago!

Honestly, when you're as old & confused as I am, 2007 and 2017 feel recent & interchangeable. FML.

Which reminds me, this week I discovered the concept of The Meldrew Point, it is when you are the same age Richard Wilson was on the day One Foot In The Grave first aired. It's 19,537 days; about 53½ years.

FML.

Jobbo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:01 am

V8Granite wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 7:23 am When you buy the GLE63 you can make that 10k a year and offset the smiles against it

If you drive it properly you will be giving aural joy to others, just like Santa. Be like Santa Jobbo.

Dave!

GLC63 was what I was thinking of, but having read the reviews the ride is way too hard despite air suspension so I think it'll be a no. Was thinking of a non-S without sports exhaust since I wouldn't want it to be too obvious anyway

I expect an F pace SVR would have a much better ride if you want that type of car, and the facelift interiors are a nicer place to be than the GLC.

Sundayjumper wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:21 am Honestly, when you're as old & confused as I am, 2007 and 2017 feel recent & interchangeable. FML.

Which reminds me, this week I discovered the concept of The Meldrew Point, it is when you are the same age Richard Wilson was on the day One Foot In The Grave first aired. It's 19,537 days; about 53½ years.

FML.

I don't believe you.

Jimexpl wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:41 am

Jobbo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:01 am

V8Granite wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 7:23 am When you buy the GLE63 you can make that 10k a year and offset the smiles against it

If you drive it properly you will be giving aural joy to others, just like Santa. Be like Santa Jobbo.

Dave!

GLC63 was what I was thinking of, but having read the reviews the ride is way too hard despite air suspension so I think it'll be a no. Was thinking of a non-S without sports exhaust since I wouldn't want it to be too obvious anyway

I expect an F pace SVR would have a much better ride if you want that type of car, and the facelift interiors are a nicer place to be than the GLC.

Yeah, but - JLR innit. Wouldn't touch it with a bargepole. I'd take a punt on a £10k Jag but not something for ~£40-50k.

Jobbo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 12:09 pm I don't believe you.

Jobbo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 12:10 pm

Jimexpl wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:41 am

Jobbo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:01 am

GLC63 was what I was thinking of, but having read the reviews the ride is way too hard despite air suspension so I think it'll be a no. Was thinking of a non-S without sports exhaust since I wouldn't want it to be too obvious anyway

I expect an F pace SVR would have a much better ride if you want that type of car, and the facelift interiors are a nicer place to be than the GLC.

Yeah, but - JLR innit. Wouldn't touch it with a bargepole. I'd take a punt on a £10k Jag but not something for ~£40-50k.

Not just me then on the JLR front