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Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:29 am
by Mito Man
Yes, just don’t pay the large corporations because who gives a shit if they go bust with thousands of staff each... :roll:

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:29 am
by ZedLeg
Why the eye roll, tell me that the core point of his presidency isn’t to funnel money out of the government into private hands? It’s basically all he’s done.

Look at the graph posted, if you consider what the bulk of the personal payments will be spent on about half of the bailout money will be funnelled up.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:30 am
by DaveE
Foz wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:25 am
ZedLeg wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:16 am and it looks like a large amount of it is just going to disappear into corporate bank accounts.

They must be laughing just now. This is exactly what Trump was put into the office to do.
:roll:
Did you guys see that lots/most of the US airlines spent pretty much all their spare cash on share buy-backs over the last decade, and now they're broke.

The amount they've asked for is basically the same as that which they spent buying back their own shares.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... acks-chart

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:32 am
by Swervin_Mervin
How does a child get a cold (hopefully) when they've been isolated for 2 weeks?! The boy seems to have sprung one this morning. :?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:34 am
by Rich B
Broccers wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:14 pm
Rich B wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:11 pm
Broccers wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:05 pm

I guess waiting till 1030 to find out from media you 99 percent prick
Blimey, you’re spikey today.

How about using real sentences, then people might understand your ramblings.
Is it 1030? Are you bored. Keep it on topic boys. London pricks like your friends are the people not taking the threat seriously.
How’s the hangover this morning Broccers?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:45 am
by drcarlos
DaveE wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:30 am
Foz wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:25 am
ZedLeg wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:16 am and it looks like a large amount of it is just going to disappear into corporate bank accounts.

They must be laughing just now. This is exactly what Trump was put into the office to do.
:roll:
Did you guys see that lots/most of the US airlines spent pretty much all their spare cash on share buy-backs over the last decade, and now they're broke.

The amount they've asked for is basically the same as that which they spent buying back their own shares.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... acks-chart
If they'd known they'd probably have left it alone rather than buying back these shares, personally I don't think it's unreasonable to bailout these companies as I'd rather the workers had something to go back to after the virus and it's easier to nurse something along than start again from scratch. Letting them go to the wall helps no one.
Well unless you want some sort of 1970's Soviet utopia.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:48 am
by ZedLeg
The problem is that giving them this money with no rules or limitations just continues the culture that left them unable to cope with this situation.

I’ll be curious to see how many of the companies that take money cut staff anyway.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:52 am
by duncs500
ZedLeg wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:48 am

I’ll be curious to see how many of the companies that take money cut staff anyway.
All of them will be opportunistic to some degree or other, they won't be able to help themselves. My company are being so obvious about it I'm embarrassed for them.

What's the alternative though? Still better for them to remain in business.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:04 am
by ZedLeg
Maybe to put some rules in place to stop them doing that rather than just letting them take the piss?

Like if you loaned a mate some money to pay their bills and they spent it on coke and hookers you’d be pissed right?

Why do we let multinationals do that with billions of pounds.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:10 am
by Beany
duncs500 wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:52 am
ZedLeg wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:48 am

I’ll be curious to see how many of the companies that take money cut staff anyway.
All of them will be opportunistic to some degree or other, they won't be able to help themselves. My company are being so obvious about it I'm embarrassed for them.

What's the alternative though? Still better for them to remain in business.
I suspect the next five years or so will be very busy for HMRC as they audit lots of companies that furloughed all of their staff to get the govt benefit, but were still operating 'as normal'.

Given the wide reaching powers HMRC have, that's an extremely dangerous game to play.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:18 am
by NotoriousREV
Mito Man wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:29 am Yes, just don’t pay the large corporations because who gives a shit if they go bust with thousands of staff each... :roll:
What about the thousands of small companies with 10s of staff each? Who bails them out?

Jobs eventually come back. It's how we look after people in the meantime that's important. Capitalism for the good times, Socialism for the bad.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:31 am
by integrale_evo
Just had to take the mrs in with breathing issues.

Never seen a hospital so quiet,ambulances sat idle and empty, everyone sitting around having a chat.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:32 am
by NotoriousREV
integrale_evo wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:31 am Just had to take the mrs in with breathing issues.

Never seen a hospital so quiet,ambulances sat idle and empty, everyone sitting around having a chat.
Hope she's OK, Harry :(

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:35 am
by duncs500
NotoriousREV wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:32 am
integrale_evo wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:31 am Just had to take the mrs in with breathing issues.

Never seen a hospital so quiet,ambulances sat idle and empty, everyone sitting around having a chat.
Hope she's OK, Harry :(
+1

Good to know that it's not chaos though. I bet you were dreading it.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:44 am
by DeskJockey
duncs500 wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:35 am
NotoriousREV wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:32 am
integrale_evo wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:31 am Just had to take the mrs in with breathing issues.

Never seen a hospital so quiet,ambulances sat idle and empty, everyone sitting around having a chat.
Hope she's OK, Harry :(
+1

Good to know that it's not chaos though. I bet you were dreading it.
+2

I've just been tested as a precaution (so we know if my wife can work). I've had a fairly bad cold this week, but no fever or other symptoms so far. But my cough got worse yesterday, so it made sense to find out.

Quietest I've ever seen the M25, less traffic than at 5AM before!

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:47 am
by Broccers
Rich B wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:34 am How’s the hangover this morning Broccers?
Escaped lightly :D :D

Bad day yesterday. :)

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:51 am
by Swervin_Mervin
DeskJockey wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:44 am
duncs500 wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:35 am
NotoriousREV wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:32 am

Hope she's OK, Harry :(
+1

Good to know that it's not chaos though. I bet you were dreading it.
+2

I've just been tested as a precaution (so we know if my wife can work). I've had a fairly bad cold this week, but no fever or other symptoms so far. But my cough got worse yesterday, so it made sense to find out.

Quietest I've ever seen the M25, less traffic than at 5AM before!
+3 Fingers crossed for you guys.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:52 am
by integrale_evo
I hope they can test her so at least we know one way or the other, she works in the maternity department so expect they'd like her back as soon as she feels well enough as babies are still being born at the same rate.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:55 am
by Swervin_Mervin
NotoriousREV wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:18 am
Mito Man wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:29 am Yes, just don’t pay the large corporations because who gives a shit if they go bust with thousands of staff each... :roll:
What about the thousands of small companies with 10s of staff each? Who bails them out?

Jobs eventually come back. It's how we look after people in the meantime that's important. Capitalism for the good times, Socialism for the bad.
This. Even if you believe in capitalism, it simply is not right that some airlines have been doling out the profit to shareholders and then going cap in hand for bailouts. Get fvcked.

Same goes for the cowardly arseholes that get are continuing to get paid 5 and 6 figure sums for not kicking a football around whilst the club staff are being furloughed at Gov't expense. Hiding behind the PFA as a collective rather than showing as an indivisual that you can afford to do your bit? Doubtless the cvnts won't be "put on the list" by those that are so vocal about toher cvnts like Ashley and Martin. :roll:

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:57 am
by NotoriousREV
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:55 am Same goes for the cowardly arseholes that get are continuing to get paid 5 and 6 figure sums for not kicking a football around whilst the club staff are being furloughed at Gov't expense. Hiding behind the PFA as a collective rather than showing as an indivisual that you can afford to do your bit? Doubtless the cvnts won't be "put on the list" by those that are so vocal about toher cvnts like Ashley and Martin. :roll:
I don't know how they can live with themselves. 1 player giving up 1 week's wages would easily pay for all the backroom staff for a month and won't impact the player in the slightest.