New iPhones

[simon_g]

iPhone 3G was £99 on a £30/month contract with O2.

I think it was the first time I'd ever paid anything upfront, was used to hopping between 12 month contracts for about £15 a month with a reasonable handset free.

[Ascender]

Just updated the family's spare phone which is an SE to iOS 12 and it really does zip along. I still think that design from the iPhone 4 is one of the most iconic and best phone designs I've ever seen. And even though its comically small now, I think it has a perfect size, weight and feel to it.

[JLv3.0]

One day I'm going to plot a graph that depicts the desirable phone size at any given point in time

"Hey check out our new phone, it's SMALLER / BIGGER (delete as appropriate) than the last one! Haven't you always wanted a SMALLER / BIGGER (delete as appropriate) phone?!"

Nokia 8210 anyone?

[Ascender]

I loved the Motorola V50 and still have one in a drawer with a blue 8210. Nokia did some nice premium versions in matt black and metal, I think one had a slider cover over it too.

I get why people want bigger phones now as they've become so powerful and the screens are great for watching stuff on the move, but I honestly still think there's a market for iPhone to do a new SE which is now RIP.

[tim]

Who actually uses a phone as a phone anymore anyway? I very rarely make or receive any calls.

[Jobbo]

Who actually uses a phone as a phone anymore anyway? I very rarely make or receive any calls.

Having recently gone through the PAC code dance (switching Voda-Giffgaff-Voda because the best deal was for new customers on Voda and I was already with them) there's a lot to be said for this. Make SIMs data-only, no allocated phone number and you can use your number as your ID for Whatsapp calls or whatever - a non-proprietary phone app would be the ideal for anyone who does still speak to people.

[JLv3.0]

Who actually uses a phone as a phone anymore anyway? I very rarely make or receive any calls.

I'd quite happily remove the call app from my phone, hate phonecalls in general and especially when people call me.

"Hi I'm just making sure you got my email"

"why the fuck wouldn't I have got it, stop annoying me"

[tim]

Who actually uses a phone as a phone anymore anyway? I very rarely make or receive any calls.

Having recently gone through the PAC code dance (switching Voda-Giffgaff-Voda because the best deal was for new customers on Voda and I was already with them) there's a lot to be said for this. Make SIMs data-only, no allocated phone number and you can use your number as your ID for Whatsapp calls or whatever - a non-proprietary phone app would be the ideal for anyone who does still speak to people.

They almost are...

https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/09 ... -xs-xs-max

[Jobbo]

Isn't that the opposite? Who cares about more than one SIM when you don't use it for voice calls?

[ste]

Who actually uses a phone as a phone anymore anyway? I very rarely make or receive any calls.

Pretty much most of the day on weekdays.

If you don't use it as a phone, why spend £1500 on a huge iPhone; Isn't an iPad better at not being a phone?

[JLv3.0]

Apart from being too big to pocket, my Galaxy Tab 8.4" was pretty much perfect, including being used as a phone.

[tim]

Exactly that, they're too big to carry around. iPhone Xs Max is a good size for doing stuff on, yet can still go in a jacket pocket.

People wailing - you're spending £1500 on a phone - well it's not really a telephone you're buying, is it.

[JLv3.0]

Tim, sometimes people can be a little disingenuous with the actual facts in order for their statement to have more impact.

[tim]

Tim, sometimes people can be a little disingenuous with the actual facts in order for their statement to have more impact.

NO! SHUT UP!

[ste]

I don't care who spends what on what, I couldn't give less of a shit. I was thinking out loud about the use case for someone who doesn't make or receive calls and at what point an iPad is the better device to carry about. I guess it's what they were doing with iPad mini. Do they still make thjose, is there an up-to-date version or have these plus sized iPhones made them obsolete?

[tim]

iPad Mini is still way too big to carry around. I have an old Min 2 at home which the kids play with.

What you're describing is an iPhone +/Max sized iPod Touch, that would be bob-on, if you never made calls or used SMS.

[ZedLeg]

The reason I've never bothered to get a tablet is that I can't think of anything I would use it for that I can't do on my phone.

[Jobbo]

Tablets are great for watching telly/videos on in bed. Though if you fall asleep, they are more likely to twat you in the face than a phone.

[JLv3.0]

The reason I've never bothered to get a tablet is that I can't think of anything I would use it for that I can't do on my phone.

Travel. Perfect device to have on you with a few films etc loaded on, internet access, all that stuff. There is a definite use for them.

[ZedLeg]

Aye, I get why other people use them, just don't have a space for them myself. The times people tend to use them is when I'm reading, I struggle to read at home/during the day as there's usually too much distracting stuff happening