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It looks like a PR disaster to me (and weirdly actually looks like it says P R )

Got to be the same PR firm, I bet there already in it for an absurd amount of money so have to give it a go despite the damage done to jaguar.

Driving to a site this morning I noticed that they have a shop front covered up at 55 Knightsbridge - presumably the launch showroom?

This cyber attack won't help them.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9wywvllq7wo

Or maybe a convenient excuse for the inevitable

Production stopped since Sunday, workers told not to go in until Tuesday.

“May be catastrophic”

Inside job by Tata. Bypasses most of the pesky unions.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c784nwvj1l3o

Proper fucked.

It isn't pretty. And from what I'm hearing it was a fairly basic/trivial exploit that let them in.

So losses of £50m a week plus suppliers having serious struggles - it’s a cyber attack, but what if it’s found to be by a recognised state-sponsored agent? I think the lack of financial response by Gov to be suspicious..

M&S, Co-Op, Harrods and JLR all have their IT provision via Tata Consultancy Services (TCS). All companies were hit by the same cyber group. I'm not suggesting there is a pattern here, obviously.

I've a lot of sympathy for the workers and the affected 3rd party suppliers - however the fact that Unite are suggesting the tax payer should bail everyone out all because those companies chose to outsource their IT provision to increase margins? How about Tata covers all the costs? Four of their companies have been compromised, and TCS netted $5.7billion last year. They can pay it for their shitty cyber practices.

^ that.

Yep. Tata in general are awful. See their steelworks always claiming they're on the brink of bankruptcy, workers treated like rubbish, then getting bailed out by the government, rinse and repeat. Being hacked does seem like karma after they knowingly sold cars with inferior security systems for many years, shafting customers forever more with ridiculous premiums...

Matty wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:01 pm M&S, Co-Op, Harrods and JLR all have their IT provision via Tata Consultancy Services (TCS). All companies were hit by the same cyber group. I'm not suggesting there is a pattern here, obviously.

I've a lot of sympathy for the workers and the affected 3rd party suppliers - however the fact that Unite are suggesting the tax payer should bail everyone out all because those companies chose to outsource their IT provision to increase margins? How about Tata covers all the costs? Four of their companies have been compromised, and TCS netted $5.7billion last year. They can pay it for their shitty cyber practices.

DeskJockey wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:04 pm^ that.

Those.

I've had all 4 of these companies as customers in my portfolio in a previous role and whenever TCS joined our call we'd always sit slack jawed and completely befuddled at how they are still in business. They are _awful_, they present no value, and we would constantly have to explain and re-explain even the most basic principles of web fundamentals to them. TCS only exist to keep payroll numbers off the PnL sheet, nothing more. If they went to the wall tomorrow nothing of value would be lost.

And yes, we know at least one of the hacks mentioned was a social engineering one. That it could've happened more than once is mindboggling.

I've worked extensively with TATA Communications.

Broadly speaking...what Simon said.

BMW might be next...

https://cybernews.com/news/bmw-ransomwa ... jlr-trend/

Matty wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:01 pm M&S, Co-Op, Harrods and JLR all have their IT provision via Tata Consultancy Services (TCS). All companies were hit by the same cyber group. I'm not suggesting there is a pattern here, obviously.

I've a lot of sympathy for the workers and the affected 3rd party suppliers - however the fact that Unite are suggesting the tax payer should bail everyone out all because those companies chose to outsource their IT provision to increase margins? How about Tata covers all the costs? Four of their companies have been compromised, and TCS netted $5.7billion last year. They can pay it for their shitty cyber practices.

If I install a bathroom in your house, and it leaks through your ceilings and destroys your house, I (well the company I work for) is liable to sort it out, either from their own pocket or via our public liability insurance.

It seems baffling that there’s not some clause in the contracts that states an IT security contractor is liable if they fail to secure your IT

jamcg wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 10:32 am

Matty wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:01 pm M&S, Co-Op, Harrods and JLR all have their IT provision via Tata Consultancy Services (TCS). All companies were hit by the same cyber group. I'm not suggesting there is a pattern here, obviously.

I've a lot of sympathy for the workers and the affected 3rd party suppliers - however the fact that Unite are suggesting the tax payer should bail everyone out all because those companies chose to outsource their IT provision to increase margins? How about Tata covers all the costs? Four of their companies have been compromised, and TCS netted $5.7billion last year. They can pay it for their shitty cyber practices.

If I install a bathroom in your house, and it leaks through your ceilings and destroys your house, I (well the company I work for) is liable to sort it out, either from their own pocket or via our public liability insurance.

It seems baffling that there’s not some clause in the contracts that states an IT security contractor is liable if they fail to secure your IT

From my limited knowledge it seems more complex than that. Eg an employee clicking a dodgy link giving access to the hackers. So in your case it would be like someone leaving a tap open and flooding the house and then wanting to claim from your company