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Re: Today’s want

Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 4:50 pm
by Jobbo
Here's an oddity. Looks pricey at over £50k for a two year old Merc GLC, but it's a 400d. Which has never appeared on the price lists in the UK, and in fact there was never any 6-cyl diesel after the facelift: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-detail ... 5065407522

RHD, spec doesn't look that weird (appears to be Premium Plus except that it's on 19"s) so could it have been brought in to try the market? It has a CO2 figure registered with the DVLA.

ETA: googling has found this video with a bit more detail in the description. It wasn't available to buy new and was owned by Merc UK:

Re: Today’s want

Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 5:00 pm
by dinny_g
I've a 300d which is "adequate" in terms of performance - then there's a big jump to the 43 variants. The 400d spec would slot in nicely in-between

Edit - just watched the vid - some oddities. Mine's got 20" wheels so I wonder why they put 19's on what looks like a special. And the tailgate mechanism doesn't appear to the the electronic version. You could never close mine with a push. You'd have to use the button.

Re: Today’s want

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 3:19 pm
by ZedLeg
The connoisseur's 5 cylinder quattro

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/198 ... bo-quattro

Re: Today’s want

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 3:25 pm
by Jobbo
ZedLeg wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 3:19 pm The connoisseur's 5 cylinder quattro

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/198 ... bo-quattro
Air-con needs a regas. Yeah, it's 33 years old so I'm sure it's just that.

Re: Today’s want

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 3:30 pm
by Sundayjumper
Jobbo wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 3:25 pm Air-con needs a regas (every two minutes)

Re: Today’s want

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 3:31 pm
by ZedLeg
Air con is for wimps, just open a window.

Re: Today’s want

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 3:33 pm
by Jobbo
ZedLeg wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 3:31 pm Air con is for wimps, just open a window.
Even in the contemporary 1980s reviews, that model Audi 100/200 was described as having woeful ventilation if it didn't have air-con.

Anyway, I'm just repeating what it says in the ad. I thought Collecting Cars was trying to get away from lazy car seller cliches.

Re: Today’s want

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 5:26 pm
by Rich B
Yeah - AC will be fucked! It needs some BBS wheels like the one in the living daylights!

Re: Today’s want

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 11:08 am
by MikeHunt
Something very cool about the Alpinas, hope that it isn't diluted post takeover. Its an M3 without the nostril, what's not to like.

https://www.sytner.co.uk/car-search/145 ... tch-tronic

Re: Today’s want

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 2:14 pm
by Rich B
MikeHunt wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 11:08 am, what's not to like.
It's an M3 without wide arches.

Re: Today’s want

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 4:19 pm
by Jobbo
MikeHunt wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 11:08 am Something very cool about the Alpinas, hope that it isn't diluted post takeover. Its an M3 without the nostril, what's not to like.

https://www.sytner.co.uk/car-search/145 ... tch-tronic
I read this week that on the F30/31 3-series, virtually none of the Alpina B3S Biturbos sold we’re specced with the Alpina-specific Lavalina leather. That’s such a shame. Makes the massive price premium over a 340i look silly.

Re: Today’s want

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 6:44 pm
by integrale_evo
Rich B wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 2:14 pm
MikeHunt wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 11:08 am, what's not to like.
It's an M3 without wide arches.
I’d happily lose the arches to not have to put up with that hideous face.

Re: Today’s want

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 7:22 pm
by Rich B
integrale_evo wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 6:44 pm
Rich B wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 2:14 pm
MikeHunt wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 11:08 am, what's not to like.
It's an M3 without wide arches.
I’d happily lose the arches to not have to put up with that hideous face.
How much difference is there between a B3 and an m340i? 40bhp could be sorted very easily - is there anything else?

Re: Today’s want

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 7:25 pm
by Rich B
I'm getting confused with the various Alpina b3 models - this one says 410bhp - is that right?

Re: Today’s want

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 7:41 pm
by MikeHunt
They share the S58 with the M3/4 but have a different turbo setup for more torque and less top end power.

Alpina suits the large cars such as the 5 and 7 (I will ignore the SUVs) but Im not sure how well it fits on smaller cars such as the 3 and the Z4.

Re: Today’s want

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 7:41 pm
by Mito Man
I’d pick the M3/4 every day over the Alpina. There’s a few companies doing various grill fixes for it now.

Re: Today’s want

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 8:35 pm
by Rich B
MikeHunt wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 7:41 pm They share the S58 with the M3/4 but have a different turbo setup for more torque and less top end power.

Alpina suits the large cars such as the 5 and 7 (I will ignore the SUVs) but Im not sure how well it fits on smaller cars such as the 3 and the Z4.
id still have the M over any alpina.

that ad says 410bhp - presumably that's wrong?

Re: Today’s want

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 8:47 am
by ZedLeg
MikeHunt wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 11:08 am what's not to like.
£80k for a 3 series

Re: Today’s want

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 9:25 am
by Jobbo
Rich B wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 8:35 pm that ad says 410bhp - presumably that's wrong?
The current B3 (which that is) has 462bhp, and even the F30/31 generation B3S had 434bhp. I assume the earlier B3 version of the F30 had 410hp and that's what has auto-populated.

ETA: the B3 F30 had 404bhp, so maybe whoever typed it in just guessed :lol:

Re: Today’s want

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 10:00 am
by Rich B
Jobbo wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 9:25 am
Rich B wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 8:35 pm that ad says 410bhp - presumably that's wrong?
The current B3 (which that is) has 462bhp, and even the F30/31 generation B3S had 434bhp. I assume the earlier B3 version of the F30 had 410hp and that's what has auto-populated.

ETA: the B3 F30 had 404bhp, so maybe whoever typed it in just guessed :lol:
It starts to make a bit more sense with a proper S code engine rather than a tuned 340 engine, but it's still too much money and too dull looking for me (I've never particularly liked the typical Alpina treatment - straight front splitter, spokes and a few graphics).