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Re: No F1 thread?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:10 pm
by NotoriousREV
I guess people will want to see if it actually works. I suspect the advantage is more in tyre life than out and out performance.

Re: No F1 thread?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:24 pm
by duncs500
I guess as well, with suspension elements you need to put the safety questions to bed, if they just ran it in Melbourne and there was an issue it wouldn't go down well.

Re: No F1 thread?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:22 pm
by Orange Cola
duncs500 wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:50 pm How long before the next track focused supercar has steering column adjustable toe angle? :D
911 already does it.

Re: No F1 thread?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:25 pm
by NotoriousREV
Who had Grosjean in the sweepstake to be the first person to have an actual crash? Oh, everybody.

Re: No F1 thread?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:27 pm
by NotoriousREV
Orange Cola wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:22 pm
duncs500 wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:50 pm How long before the next track focused supercar has steering column adjustable toe angle? :D
911 already does it.
I haven’t actually checked but I’m going to say no it doesn’t.

Re: No F1 thread?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:27 pm
by Orange Cola
NotoriousREV wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:10 pm I guess people will want to see if it actually works. I suspect the advantage is more in tyre life than out and out performance.
I think they might be looking to off set the additional tyre life with a more aggressive set up, it will at least give them options.

Re: No F1 thread?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:28 pm
by Orange Cola
NotoriousREV wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:27 pm
Orange Cola wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:22 pm
duncs500 wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:50 pm How long before the next track focused supercar has steering column adjustable toe angle? :D
911 already does it.
I haven’t actually checked but I’m going to say no it doesn’t.
It does. They actively alter the toe of the rear wheels under braking.

Re: No F1 thread?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:29 pm
by NotoriousREV
Orange Cola wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:28 pm
NotoriousREV wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:27 pm
Orange Cola wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:22 pm

911 already does it.
I haven’t actually checked but I’m going to say no it doesn’t.
It does. They actively alter the toe of the rear wheels under braking.
Yeah, that’s not manually adjusting the toe angle via the steering column, is it? Which is what Duncs said.

Re: No F1 thread?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:29 pm
by Mito Man
But not from the steering column ;)

Re: No F1 thread?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:31 pm
by Orange Cola
You’re just being picky now ;)

Point is altering toe angles is already out there.

Re: No F1 thread?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:32 pm
by NotoriousREV
To be fair, my 996 changed the front toe angle under braking. Until I changed the track rod ends.

Re: No F1 thread?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:32 pm
by NotoriousREV
Orange Cola wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:31 pm You’re just being picky now ;)

Point is altering toe angles is already out there.
No shit. But that’s not what we’re talking about :lol:

Re: No F1 thread?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:33 pm
by Mito Man
It’s kind of like everything else in F1, needlessly over complicated because there’s so many rules banning development that even more time and money is spent circumventing them :lol:

Re: No F1 thread?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:36 pm
by NotoriousREV
Imagine if all the interesting stuff that got banned didn’t get banned and we now had decades of development on things like ground effects, active suspension, big fucking fans etc.

Re: No F1 thread?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:46 pm
by Mito Man
The F1 drivers would be wearing G suits 8-)

Re: No F1 thread?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:05 pm
by NotoriousREV
And we’d have tunnels so they could go upside down :lol:

Re: No F1 thread?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:50 pm
by Orange Cola
Pretty sure we’d have gone autonomous with the forces involved.

Re: No F1 thread?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:13 pm
by Mito Man
I wish Formula E was a full on autonomous series - would be amazing watching AI battling it out and an actual new motorsport which would help road car development.

Re: No F1 thread?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:01 pm
by jamcg
Mito Man wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:02 pm Their rear suspension is quite trick too.

I’m surprised they’ve revealed the steering for testing though, other teams may have it in a few races time. Should have just used it in Melbourne.
Possibly revealed early to get the inevitable protests out of the way

Re: No F1 thread?

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:59 am
by NotoriousREV
jamcg wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:01 pm
Mito Man wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:02 pm Their rear suspension is quite trick too.

I’m surprised they’ve revealed the steering for testing though, other teams may have it in a few races time. Should have just used it in Melbourne.
Possibly revealed early to get the inevitable protests out of the way
That and, y’know, they needed to test it? During testing?