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Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:13 pm
by Rich B
Broccers wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:11 pm
Rich B wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:06 pm
Broccers wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 4:58 pm

Have you always been a left idiot Mike?
Does being on the right mean you support rapists now?
You're ignored lad. I am interested in my Scottish friends answer.
You’re replying to tell me you’re ignoring me… Good job Broccers. 😂

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:16 pm
by Sundayjumper
Like I said. Thinking. He's not keen on it.

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:19 pm
by Rich B
I like to think that Broccers brings an element of healing to this forum. No matter how much we bicker and disagree on things, we all agree he’s a dick!

lad.

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:21 pm
by GG.
Just so you're clear on what you're debating (without making any normative judgment), trump has not been 'convicted' of any sexual related misdemeanours. Conviction is the successful prosecution of a a criminal charge. He has, however, been convicted of falsifying business records in relation to the hush money payments (though again, that was a novel case of a non-felony misdemeanor being tried as a felony).

The sexual assault cases were civil cases where he was pursued for monetary compensation and the burden of proof is >50% in those cases. He was also held not liable in respect of the rape allegation (again civil standard) but was for sexual assault.

Again, no normative judgment I'm just correcting the mistaken statements made above.

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:26 pm
by Gavster
Okay so I've been digging into X today because I'm literally fascinated by this. One thing that's really curious is how Trump supporters were accusing Harris of taking action to ensure the democrats would never lose an election ever again, ensuring rebulicans would never take power again. Meanwhile Harris supporters were accusing Trump of wanting to never leave power. More or less shouting the same thing at each other.

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:35 pm
by ZedLeg
It looks like a collapse in the dems numbers is at least partially responsible. Turnout was low in general but the dems lost 14 mil votes compared to 2 mil or so for trump.

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:23 pm
by Gavster
I really don't understand why they would lose so many votes compared to Biden in 2020... hmmmm let me think.
Sundayjumper wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:46 am Don't forget that America as a whole is way more racist & misogynistic & right wing than we can comprehend.

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:39 pm
by RobYob
ZedLeg wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:35 pm It looks like a collapse in the dems numbers is at least partially responsible. Turnout was low in general but the dems lost 14 mil votes compared to 2 mil or so for trump.
FFS the septics really are the worst, pity their choices have so much influence on their trading partners and allies.

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:43 pm
by Broccers
Rich B wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:19 pm I like to think that Broccers brings an element of healing to this forum. No matter how much we bicker and disagree on things, we all agree he’s a dick!

lad.
Do a poll.

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:43 pm
by Jimexpl
Gavster wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:23 pm I really don't understand why they would lose so many votes compared to Biden in 2020... hmmmm let me think.
Sundayjumper wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:46 am Don't forget that America as a whole is way more racist & misogynistic & right wing than we can comprehend.
This...unfortunately Trump is the ideal president for them!

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:51 pm
by Simon
Gavster wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:23 pm I really don't understand why they would lose so many votes compared to Biden in 2020... hmmmm let me think.
Sundayjumper wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:46 am Don't forget that America as a whole is way more racist & misogynistic & right wing than we can comprehend.
My wife says that in some ways she prefers the US, because their racism is front and centre obvious, and so easier to avoid. In the UK the racism is much more subtle.

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:00 pm
by Rich B
Broccers wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:43 pm
Rich B wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:19 pm I like to think that Broccers brings an element of healing to this forum. No matter how much we bicker and disagree on things, we all agree he’s a dick!

lad.
Do a poll.
You’re really struggling with the whole concept of “ignoring” aren’t you! 😂

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:00 pm
by Broccers
Rich B wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:00 pm
Broccers wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:43 pm
Rich B wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:19 pm I like to think that Broccers brings an element of healing to this forum. No matter how much we bicker and disagree on things, we all agree he’s a dick!

lad.
Do a poll.
You’re really struggling with the whole concept of “ignoring” aren’t you! 😂
Not really mate. I check in when I choose. Do a poll tho. It'll prove no more than 100 people look at your bitchy comments.

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:16 pm
by Rich B
Broccers wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:00 pm
Rich B wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:00 pm
Broccers wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:43 pm

Do a poll.
You’re really struggling with the whole concept of “ignoring” aren’t you! 😂
Not really mate. I check in when I choose. Do a poll tho. It'll prove no more than 100 people look at your bitchy comments.
100 people?! that’s more than there are active users on here - not overly confident are you!

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:28 pm
by Broccers
Rich B wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:16 pm
Broccers wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:00 pm
Rich B wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:00 pm You’re really struggling with the whole concept of “ignoring” aren’t you! 😂
Not really mate. I check in when I choose. Do a poll tho. It'll prove no more than 100 people look at your bitchy comments.
100 people?! that’s more than there are active users on here - not overly confident are you!
Fuck me he agrees no one looks at his bitchy comments. 😀💥

Re: Trump

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 8:36 am
by Sundayjumper
Kasparov speaks much truth.



Re: Trump

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:06 am
by Ascender
Broccers wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 4:58 pm
Ascender wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 3:05 pm He's a convicted rapist and sexual predator. The fact he could even run for President, let alone win, blows my mind.
Have you always been a left idiot Mike?
Yes, as seems to be the trend this week on social media and the Daily Mail, I'm now a woke, lefty idiot for not liking people found guilty of sexual abuse.

Re: Trump

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:10 am
by Broccers
Ascender wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:06 am
Broccers wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 4:58 pm
Ascender wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 3:05 pm He's a convicted rapist and sexual predator. The fact he could even run for President, let alone win, blows my mind.
Have you always been a left idiot Mike?
Yes, as seems to be the trend this week on social media and the Daily Mail, I'm now a woke, lefty idiot for not liking rapists.
Interesting take. Do you think all political people are nice upstanding pillars of the community?

Re: Trump

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:23 am
by Jobbo
Gary Glitter for Prime Minister!

Re: Trump

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:25 am
by ZedLeg
Russell Brand for Minister for youth engagement