mik wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:48 am
All of this confirms that @Rich B needs an Elise next.
to be honest,it's just highlighting how perfect the M2 is - small, fast, good looking, wide arches.
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:19 pm
by RobYob
It's Italian, it's mental, it's crusty, it's vasty entertaining if you're not paying for the work.....
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:27 pm
by Coaster1
If we’re talking about shit design / ugly cars.......
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:06 pm
by Coaster1
Great video.
Menacing look and quite a performance bargain in the second hand market. I like it a lot.
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:40 pm
by Barry
Impressive 0-100mph time too! My Suzuki was 7.? to 100, and that felt bonkers enough.
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:28 pm
by nuttinnew
I like the glass roof, didn't realise they had that (or was it part of the £72k options?), and that it can be comparatively quiet
I don't know what spec tyres it was on but they didn't seem too bothered by the cold.
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:18 am
by DaveE
£2000 for carbon shift paddles
£2500 for orange stitching
Such a con
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:07 am
by GG.
540Cs and 570GTs also look like mega value at 70-80k.
Is the reliability of these supposed to be any better than the 12C? They have passive dampers I believe (which caused a lot of problems on the 12C on account of the fluid being shared with the gearbox IIRC) which should have removed some of the complexity.
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:13 am
by mik
DaveE wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:18 am
£2000 for carbon shift paddles
£2500 for orange stitching
Such a con
My memory is suggesting to me that Ferrari charged over £7k for the Tri-colour stripe on the 430 Stradale - but my memory is a sneaky bastard that can inflate such numbers....
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:18 am
by Maurice
GG. wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:07 am
540Cs and 570GTs also look like mega value at 70-80k.
Is the reliability of these supposed to be any better than the 12C? They have passive dampers I believe (which caused a lot of problems on the 12C on account of the fluid being shared with the gearbox IIRC) which should have removed some of the complexity.
I did notionally think about these before opting for the 430, but there were enough varying reports of reliability to put me off. Big bills may be likely and dealerships response to the warranties are not consistent it seems.
Seems like a classic example of maintenance costs not matching a depreciation curve!
DaveE wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:18 am
£2000 for carbon shift paddles
£2500 for orange stitching
Such a con
My memory is suggesting to me that Ferrari charged over £7k for the Tri-colour stripe on the 430 Stradale - but my memory is a sneaky bastard that can inflate such numbers....
Totally (although I think at least that stripe was paint rather than say a sticker)
Carbon trinkets must be a manufacturer's most profitable products
By comparison, I've been looking at getting some nice shift paddles for the 1 series and you can get genuine carbon ones for under £200
I'm not a fan of carbon trinkets/dressing though
It's actually been quite tricky find some non-carbon paddles!
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:47 am
by Mito Man
Even £200 for paddles seems like much. The whole dash trim which runs across the Model 3 and centre console can be swapped to carbon for a little over £200 aftermarket.
Also alcantara is the other joke priced material. When I was having my Defender rooflining done in it my mechanic ordered a 10 metre roll of it from Italy for £100. OEM manufacturers act like it’s extracted from virgin unicorn semen and price it accordingly
Re: Harry’s Garage
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:50 pm
by V8Granite
Mito Man wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:47 am
Even £200 for paddles seems like much. The whole dash trim which runs across the Model 3 and centre console can be swapped to carbon for a little over £200 aftermarket.
Also alcantara is the other joke priced material. When I was having my Defender rooflining done in it my mechanic ordered a 10 metre roll of it from Italy for £100. OEM manufacturers act like it’s extracted from virgin unicorn semen and price it accordingly
There is a lot of Alcantara though that isn’t Alcantara, for £100 it can’t be genuine Alcantara. If you would ever notice the difference though is questionable.
Mito Man wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:47 am
Even £200 for paddles seems like much. The whole dash trim which runs across the Model 3 and centre console can be swapped to carbon for a little over £200 aftermarket.
Also alcantara is the other joke priced material. When I was having my Defender rooflining done in it my mechanic ordered a 10 metre roll of it from Italy for £100. OEM manufacturers act like it’s extracted from virgin unicorn semen and price it accordingly
There is a lot of Alcantara though that isn’t Alcantara, for £100 it can’t be genuine Alcantara. If you would ever notice the difference though is questionable.
Dave!
Actual alcantara is only made by one company, but there’s 1000 other companies making the same product but just can’t use the name alcantara due to licensing.