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Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:41 am
by Broccers
Rich B wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:23 am
Broccers wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:00 am
Yes. Knew it wouldn't be cheap. Can't be fixed apparently.
ring your insurer - they won't be sorting it direct.
Thanks. I told my insurance about it and it's all being sorted by other party. I've passed on the quotes.
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:46 am
by Rich B
Broccers wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:41 am
Rich B wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:23 am
Broccers wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:00 am
Yes. Knew it wouldn't be cheap. Can't be fixed apparently.
ring your insurer - they won't be sorting it direct.
Thanks. I told my insurance about it and it's all being sorted by other party. I've passed on the quotes.
by them or their insurer? have they seen the quote yet?
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:56 am
by Jobbo
There's a chap on PH who had a new Taycan Cross Turismo for a week before he hit a pothole and bent a wheel. Rather than just replacing the wheel Porsche require (and the car's warranty will not be valid in future unless this is done):
- Since the suspension components are cast aluminium Porsche insist they are replaced along with the air suspension strut, due to unknown load through the suspension.
- Replacement of the steering rack as it’s a sealed unit which isn’t able to be inspected or repaired. As part of replacing the steering rack Porsche also require replacement of the steering column.
- A check of the entire bodyshell alignment on a jig as well as stress test the turret top mount for the air suspension strut.
- Since the Taycan is a specialist vehicle, only a specially trained technician can do the work.
The estimate is around £17-18,000 mostly comprising parts. So think yourself lucky the bumper is such a bargain.
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:05 am
by mik

That’s pathetic…..
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:06 am
by Broccers
Yes Rich they've the quote.
Blimey that's steep Simon

Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:14 am
by Rich B
Broccers wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:06 am
Yes Rich they've the quote.
Blimey that's steep Simon
and it's them paying or their insurer?
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:15 am
by Jobbo
Yeah, it's ridiculous isn't it. Sadly since Porsche know about it he can't just order another wheel to replace the damaged one, his warranty is in jeopardy if he doesn't get all that work done. It's covered by insurance but fuck.
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:35 am
by integrale_evo
I guess it depends how bent the wheel is, but it does seem ridiculous. Components are usually designed to deform in a controlled and progressive way to make repair easier.
For an impact hard enough to potentially misalign the body you’d expect to be sweeping the wheel into a big bag

Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:39 am
by mik
integrale_evo wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:35 am
I guess it depends how bent the wheel is, but it does seem ridiculous.
Just found the thread on Boatshoes

Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:02 am
by Jobbo
I think I'd be ordering a smaller diameter alloy size if I were speccing a Taycan now.
ETA: here's a link to the thread if anyone else wants a look, it's about 76 pages in (at the default page size):
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/top ... 934122&i=0
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:08 am
by Swervin_Mervin
I was actually reading that list thinking that their requirements didn't seem that unreasonable! I mean, we're all well aware of Porsche's turret issues aren't we?
But they lost me at putting it on a jig. Utterly bonkers

Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:19 am
by Carlos
Broccers wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:06 am
Yes Rich they've the quote.
Blimey that's steep Simon
How much was a new bumper ?
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:41 am
by Zonda_
4 Series has an issue with the brakes in that they are shit, alarmingly so. The pads have plenty of life in them but to my untrained eye they don't seem to be contacting the disc fully. There is no vibration under braking, just a lot less stopping power.
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:01 am
by Broccers
Carlos wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:19 am
Broccers wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:06 am
Yes Rich they've the quote.
Blimey that's steep Simon
How much was a new bumper ?
3k inc all fittings etc. I am waiting on one more quote tho so maybe a bit less. Either way as soon as you mention insurance then things seem to go up.
On that note I put a call in to porsche to get a price for them to fix it - within 10 mins I got a call back from their ambulance chaser claims department wanting to know all the accident details and nothing forthcoming on quoting the parts and paint. They also wanted to see it to provide a price of supplying a new bumper and painting it which is a bit weird as I explained theres only minor damage and nothing is bent / moved. Useless.
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:03 am
by Beany
Zonda_ wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:41 am
4 Series has an issue with the brakes in that they are shit, alarmingly so. The pads have plenty of life in them but to my untrained eye they don't seem to be contacting the disc fully. There is no vibration under braking, just a lot less stopping power.
Damnit, you noticed that I swapped my brakes for yours....
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:52 pm
by MikeHunt
Treated the Z4 to ac schnitzer 25mm lower springs and 10mm spacers, along with a full alignment this week. It looks a lot better, in fact my crappy pics dont do it justice but the feel is oem, or as my wife who only drives in comfort mode said "are you sure they changed anything". The steering feel is a lot better around the centre (probably due to the factory alignment) and there is a lot less jitter and bounce on uneven lanes when pushing on. Cost was just shy of £900, but that includes warranty cover for anything that BMW wont pay for due to the mods.

Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:56 pm
by Rich B
Looks way better - my e92 had similar stance improvements - only millimetres different, but overall look transformed without ruining the function.
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:03 pm
by mik

SSSNM
Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:07 pm
by integrale_evo
My compact rides really nicely on its schnitzer springs. I’m not totally happy with how it sits, but reluctant to put coilovers on it and spoil it

Re: Your fleet running reports
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:07 pm
by MikeHunt
Rich B wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:56 pm
Looks way better - my e92 had similar stance improvements - only millimetres different, but overall look transformed without ruining the function.
My car related ocd geekery is at this level too, not a cheap alfiction to live with
integrale_evo wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:07 pm
My compact rides really nicely on its schnitzer springs. I’m not totally happy with how it sits, but reluctant to put coilovers on it and spoil it
I totally ruined a scooby sti and paid over the odds for the privilege, never again. The ACS coilover delete the dynamic dampers which makes the decision even easier for me.
I know its probably down to the alignment as much as the new kit, but I can overstate how much more enjoyable it is to drive now.
